Badran

Congratulations, Baddo, you now have a chat account!

L'inno dayman baddak shee. I guess you folks say 'aayez more.

Hey, I just realized that I never thanked you for the frubal from dust1n's leaving RF thread. Thank you. I meant to explain better, in case my post came across strangely. Then I just didn't do it.

I don't mind croaky. I think it's on my list of nicknames, anyway.

But a nickname for you.... I'll get back to you on that.

Ah, a chat username. Figures. All the niceties just for a pretty name. All right. You'll get your account. But it will be with the username of my choice. You can choose the password, though; I'm nice like that. Just let me know what you want it to be.

I'm more of an armchair athlete than anything else. I'm so lazy. It's a habit I'm going to have to break soonish though.

I don't think I'd enjoy community in many other places, though; I'm a bit of an oddity here. I don't drink, don't smoke, don't do drugs, married and had kids early, don't go clubbing... that puts me out of touch with about 95% of people my age.

On top of that, I'm interested in religions as a whole, but there seems to be three main camps: the haters, the uninterested, and the super-devout who only want to talk about why you should join theirs; I've only met a few of the latter though.

Coupled with the fact I'm not big on people, I'd be much better off making friends with a tree or something.

I can understand why you would be worried about dying young and not getting to accomplish what you wish. For me it'd be leaving my wife and kids behind. Although at 23 years old, I was your age and still married with kids. Kids were an important factor in my desire for a religion, surprisingly; I wanted them to have some form of community. Nothing has really come of it, although if I were Christian (and if my wife was a bit more um.. less foul-mouthed and disinterested in the religion she claims allegiance towards D:..) we'd be well off, since there's two churches near me: one at the end of my church (which I wouldn't visit) and the vicar for another lives 2 minutes up the road, with his church on the corner. She helps out at 'messy church' (for kids) there, but doesn't go to regular church. I'm too shy to show my face there, even though they always ask about me when they see my wife.

I can understand not wanting to limit yourself under labels. I quite like labels personally, just because of their simplicity, but they never do accurately represent everything you believe. Unless you start going into lots of labels. Besides saying something like "I'm a Hadith-lite Universalist Panentheistic Muslim with Ismaili and Sufi leanings and a secular outlook" being cumbersome, for most it'd probably be replied with "What does that all mean?!"

I know what it's like to have your views nor represent you, from a little to a lot, since I've gone through a few problems with religious identity. I wasn't raised with religion, so I've had to do a lot of searching, learning, maturing, and moping.

What do you mean by you think it's going to change in time? You expect your views on the afterlife etc to change again in time?

Yeah, if it's gradual you don't usually notice until you ask I suppose. Would you rather have your faith than not have it, or are you happier the way you are?

That sounds pretty difficult. How long has it been since you lost your faith, then?

Wow, that's pretty rough. It's not fun when you go somewhere and you feel alienated from everyone. I'm pretty lucky in that I've usually been good with people holding similar spiritual views to me. I've visited a few churches, though, which were pretty "hardcore" and I found it alienated and weird, so I imagine it'd be the same for you like that?

It's actually fasting I'm pretty bad at, personally. I do see advantages to it but I've never been very, well, good at it. Probably because I've never really had to fast. Do you still fast on Ramadan then?

Ahh, that makes sense.

Hope is the best thing that you can have, I suppose. I take it you no longer go to mosque or anything? Do you not feel a bit more isolated compared to your previous path (I'm guessing you'd go to mosque every now and then)? If you still do go to mosque, is there a reason why? Community and friendship, habit, something else?

Ahh, I see. How has it affected you? Has it been everything (no more God, soul, afterlife, etc), or just your religion itself? When was the last phase of evaluation before this one?

When did you lose your faith?? D:

Thanks for the frube dude

Thanks! It's good to know some people find my funny

Thank you too for accepting it

Why, thank you!

I dont know if you ever saw this post: http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2988938-post154.html

:D

Seems yu put on something interesting. Goind to bed now though, so I think I´ll be understanding it and replying to it tomorrow

I do try

My Dear Friend Badran,

For perhaps the first time in the history of the world (or maybe the second, or third, etc. -- but really -- who's counting) I do not think that I have been more at a loss for words than I am now.

That is, without a doubt, the finest plea for friendship that I have ever received in RL and on RF.

While you may not have won the competition, the sweetness and sincerity of your plea for friendship has indeed touched my heart. You have most certainly won my friendship.

I consider it an honor to call you my FRIEND.

Sincerely,

Your Friend, 4consideration

p.s. That competition was so much fun for me. I hope it was for you, too.