Moral Question for Believers

Aasimar · Nov 9, 2007

K, I'm gonna sum this one up cause we have all heard the morality battle before.

This is just a question for believers in any form of deity(ies).

Do you, personally, believe that you would act immorally without the teachings of your religion and/or your connection with said deity(ies)? Why or why not.

lillitruthseeker · Nov 9, 2007

yes i was already doing it before i realized that it was wrong, and i like it so much that i am not going to stop, and then it led to me not believing in ridiculous rules and not believing so much in the things that they teach or even in it at all because its not wrong to me

roli · Nov 9, 2007

Aasimar said:
K, I'm gonna sum this one up cause we have all heard the morality battle before.

This is just a question for believers in any form of deity(ies).

Do you, personally, believe that you would act immorally without the teachings of your religion and/or your connection with said deity(ies)? Why or why not.

Just look at children and you will see pretty quickly that immorality ,selfishness, greed, covetousness, anger, etc are within all of us, even as litle children.
It is man's natural tendency

BucephalusBB · Nov 9, 2007

roli said:
Just look at children and you will see pretty quickly that immorality ,selfishness, greed, covetousness, anger, etc are within all of us, even as litle children.
It is man's natural tendency

That was not the question though.. A kid will be thought the morals of their parents and school. This question was specially made for you instead

Peace · Nov 9, 2007

Aasimar said:
Do you, personally, believe that you would act immorally without the teachings of your religion and/or your connection with said deity(ies)? Why or why not.

Yes, I would. For example sometimes im some situations I feel like I should lie but my belief comes to rescue me by knowing that it is a sin to lie. Also sometimes when I am at home and open the window I find the window of the house in front open but I immediately lower my gaze because I know it's haram (forbidden) to spy on the others. There are many cases where the religion comes in the way to prevent mefrom committing a sin or some immorally behaviors.
I am so thankful to God for setting the rules to what is permitted and what is forbidden

Peace

BucephalusBB · Nov 9, 2007

Peace said:
Yes, I would. For example sometimes im some situations I feel like I should lie but my belief comes to rescue me by knowing that it is a sin to lie. Also sometimes when I am at home and open the window I find the window of the house in front open but I immediately lower my gaze because I know it's haram (forbidden) to spy on the others. There are many cases where the religion comes in the way to prevent mefrom committing a sin or some immorally behaviors.
I am so thankful to God for setting the rules to what is permitted and what is forbidden

Peace

I never lie either because I don't like it when others lie to me and I don't spy on others as I don't like to be spyed on myself. Don't you think you could have set those rules for yourself?

Valjean · Nov 9, 2007

Children aren't fully developed, morally or physically, roli. You can't judge adult behavior or psychology from the behavior of children.

In re: moral behavior. I'm not particularly religious in the commonly understood sense of the word, and I don't usually bother myself with deities except as curiosities. Nevertheless I believe I generally conduct myself properly and conform my behavior to my own conception of right and wrong.
I don't need threats, promises and divine surveillance to keep me from running amok.

ChristineES · Nov 9, 2007

I would have the same morals, since I learned most of them from my parents. I would probably slip a bit more if I didn't have God. I hold back on doing certain things but maybe I would not hold back as much if I didn't have Jesus' teachings. I have even slipped a few times even with Jesus teachings, but maybe I would have slipped a lot more. I can't really say.

~Amin~ · Nov 9, 2007

Aasimar said:
Do you, personally, believe that you would act immorally without the teachings of your religion and/or your connection with said deity(ies)? Why or why not.

Yes i would behave immoraly,
because i would precieve them
to be good and be fooled.

9-10ths_Penguin · Nov 9, 2007

~Amin~ said:
Yes i would behave immoraly,
because i would precieve them
to be good and be fooled.

Have you or any other believers here ever experienced an incident when doing something felt wrong to your own personal morals/conscience/etc., even though it was considered right/proper/acceptable according to the moral teachings of your religon?

Gentoo · Nov 9, 2007

No, the morals I follow closely are largely independent of my religious views.

~Amin~ · Nov 9, 2007

9-10ths_Penguin said:
Have you or any other believers here ever experienced an incident when doing something felt wrong to your own personal morals/conscience/etc., even though it was considered right/proper/acceptable according to the moral teachings of your religon?

No Ive never felt as confident in my life since ive been
following the teachings of Islam which has been for the last
5 years.

Sahar · Nov 9, 2007

Bouncing Ball said:
I never lie either because I don't like it when others lie to me and I don't spy on others as I don't like to be spyed on myself. Don't you think you could have set those rules for yourself?

When God becomes one's life and when love for Him fills one's heart to extend to every atom of his body and mind, then every thing he does or don't do will be only for the sake of His God. If you don't lie or don't spy because you don't like others to lie or spy on you, she don't lie or spy because pleasing The Most High is her ultimate goal and request.
Note that what we like and don't like is changeable from time to time, maybe in the morning you will like something and at the evening you will hate it. Our desire can not be our standard as it continuesly changes thus there should be a fixed standard that is not subjected to desires.

EiNsTeiN · Nov 9, 2007

Bouncing Ball said:
I never lie either because I don't like it when others lie to me and I don't spy on others as I don't like to be spyed on myself. Don't you think you could have set those rules for yourself?

I can't say that I'm persuing my religion cuz it's setting rules to my morality..

All religions have morality within its teachings..But I would say, who was the first one to invent the morality set of rules?
There gotta be something that showed morals to us in the very beginning...And I believe that was God..

dawny0826 · Nov 9, 2007

Aasimar said:
K, I'm gonna sum this one up cause we have all heard the morality battle before.

This is just a question for believers in any form of deity(ies).

Do you, personally, believe that you would act immorally without the teachings of your religion and/or your connection with said deity(ies)? Why or why not.

SO MUCH of what I do and do not do revolves around what I believe God would want or wouldn't want me to do.

I would be a much different person without God.

Azakel · Nov 9, 2007

Gentoo said:
No, the morals I follow closely are largely independent of my religious views.

Same here, my morals and my religious following are independent from each other just like sister Gentoo here. Hell as a Chaote I have to have a strong set of good morals or I might get in trouble:angel2:

Mister Emu · Nov 10, 2007

In my current moral view, yes, I would... because I have certain morals based on my religion that I would not have independantly...

*Paul* · Nov 10, 2007

Speaking as someone who has been on both sides of this fence - with God and without God I can say for sure that without God I lived an immoral lifestyle - the only morality I was accountable to was my own conscience which I was able to suppress and justify and the morals of the people around me (whose morals were even worse than mine).

Diogenes · Nov 10, 2007

There was a famous Rabbi when asked which should be greater-the fear of God or the fear of flesh and blood-he replied that to be fearful of flesh and blood is enough. That is because when we commit a bad deed we think to ourselves, "I hope that no one can see me."

joeboonda · Nov 10, 2007

Jer. 17:9

9The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Romans 2

11For there is no respect of persons with God.
12For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
13(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another 16In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

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