is Jesus now a reigning king

look3467 · Sep 27, 2007

The sequence of events as written in the bible is like this:
God creates the world and the flesh.
But in creating the flesh death of the spirit is introduced by which God Himself has to remedy.
Which He does by recreating the world to remove the death condition and introduce life.
That is where Jesus comes in as God, and delivers the world by His own righteousness and declares that all mankind are now to come through Him for salvation.
That is the picture that is painted in the whole of the bible and mankind is the beneficiary of Gods deliverance.
Peace>>>AJ

may · Sep 28, 2007

look3467 said:
That is where Jesus comes in as God, and delivers the world by His own righteousness and declares that all mankind are now to come through Him for salvation.

the bible doesnt say that Jesus is God, dont be misled by the false trinity teaching.
For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life
john 3;16

(Romans 8:32) He who did not even spare his own Son but delivered him up for us all, why will he not also with him kindly give us all other things?

(1 John 4:9) By this the love of God was made manifest in our case, because God sent forth his only-begotten Son into the world that we might gain life through him.
(John 3;17 ) For God sent forth his Son into the world, not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him.

wizanda · Sep 28, 2007

Don’t be mislead by the doctrine (gospel) of (John) Nicolaitans (Nicodemus) either......

look3467 · Oct 2, 2007

Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

What name is that?

Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Peace>>>AJ

may · Oct 3, 2007

look3467 said:
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

What name is that?

Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Peace>>>AJ

very true indeed Jesus plays a very very big part in the outworkings of Gods purpose for the earth , there is no salvation in anyone else. Jesus is now a reigning king in Gods heavely kingdom, and it is only this heavenly goverment that we should look too.yes Jesus has been given great aurthority .Daniel 2;44 Daniel 7;13-14

look3467 · Oct 3, 2007

wizanda said:
Dont be mislead by the doctrine (gospel) of (John) Nicolaitans (Nicodemus) either......

The doctrines of the Nicolaitans is a doctrine where mankind attempts to define God's nature according to their nature, therefore binding people to their dogmas.

Peace>>>AJ

Free4all · Oct 3, 2007

may said:
Jesus was given kingship in 1914 inline with bible prophecy and chronology.Daniel 7;13-14 we have been living in the PRESENCE or PAROUSIA of christ since 1914 , his kingship was invisible to us on the earth because he is in heaven . but the signs of the times are happening just as Jesus fortold in matthew 24 we are now living in a time to put our trust in Gods kingdom with Jesus as reigning king , then when Jesus comes in glory with the holy angels to judge the inhabited earth we hpoefully can be judged as a sheep . matthew 25 ;31

If he's still up in Heaven then how can he be King on the earth?
Daniel 7:13-14 is still future - talking about the millenial reign. I don't see all dominions serving and OBEYING him! 7:27
If this present day system is what you get when the Lord Jesus Christ is King, Well, I would have to give some serious thought as to his abilities to reign.

look3467 · Oct 4, 2007

Free4all said:
If he's still up in Heaven then how can he be King on the earth?
Daniel 7:13-14 is still future - talking about the millenial reign. I don't see all dominions serving and OBEYING him! 7:27
If this present day system is what you get when the Lord Jesus Christ is King, Well, I would have to give some serious thought as to his abilities to reign.

So, you suppose God can not rule in your heart?

1Jo 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

By that meaning, a spiritual kingdom, not of this world?

Peace>>>AJ

may · Oct 21, 2007

Free4all said:
If he's still up in Heaven then how can he be King on the earth?
Daniel 7:13-14 is still future - talking about the millenial reign. I don't see all dominions serving and OBEYING him! 7:27
If this present day system is what you get when the Lord Jesus Christ is King, Well, I would have to give some serious thought as to his abilities to reign.

................... Jesus is ruling amidst his enemies, but soon he will go into action to remove those in opposition . Jesus is directing a great preaching work and it is being done on a worldwide scale
And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come..... matthew 24;14 the end of manmade goverments is just around the corner ,and those who put their trust in the reigning king Jesus christ will go on to inherit a paradise earth Daniel 2;44 MATTHEW 5;5
For any nation and any kingdom that will not serve you will perish; and the nations themselves will without fail come to devastation.isaiah 60;12

blueman · Oct 21, 2007

The Bible tells us that Jesus has authority over creation and that all things were made by Him and for Him. He sits at the right hand of God The Father. He is the reigning King and the highest of High Priest.

Iggy · Oct 23, 2007

blueman said:
The Bible tells us that Jesus has authority over creation and that all things were made by Him and for Him. He sits at the right hand of God The Father. He is the reigning King and the highest of High Priest.

I was reading Daniel and it says that the( Ancient of days )Gave the son of man aurthority, would you say that the ancient of days is the most high God ? because if it is then who is the son of man ? i think it must be Jesus .So it seems that the most high God is separate from Jesus . He could not give himself the aurthority could he ?Daniel 7;13-14 I sometimes get confused by what christians say because it seems to go against what the bible says .

sojourner · Oct 23, 2007

Iggy said:
I was reading Daniel and it says that the( Ancient of days )Gave the son of man aurthority, would you say that the ancient of days is the most high God ? because if it is then who is the son of man ? i think it must be Jesus .So it seems that the most high God is separate from Jesus . He could not give himself the aurthority could he ?Daniel 7;13-14 I sometimes get confused by what christians say because it seems to go against what the bible says .

"He" could if "he" were one God, but in three Persons. The Father, in that case, could give authority to the Son.

look3467 · Oct 23, 2007

sojourner said:
"He" could if "he" were one God, but in three Persons. The Father, in that case, could give authority to the Son.

Zec 12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.
Jesus is as God "that day".

That day, is the day of His crucifixtion.

Peace>>>AJ

sojourner · Nov 2, 2007

look3467 said:
Zec 12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.
Jesus is as God "that day".

That day, is the day of His crucifixtion.

Peace>>>AJ

I don't understand what your reply is driving at...

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