greatcalgarian
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Ahmadinejad? Not likely, he will be hunted down like Sadam, and then hanged by the Kangaroo court set up.
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What Would Happen If The US Attacks Iran?
- Thread starter Sunstone
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Ahmadinejad? Not likely, he will be hunted down like Sadam, and then hanged by the Kangaroo court set up.
Cynic
Well-Known Member
*REM song pops into head*
It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine
Ahmadinejad? Not likely, he will be hunted down like Sadam, and then hanged by the Kangaroo court set up.
Hunted down by whom, GC? Are you forgetting that the US is not planning for a ground invasion?
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
There's a great deal of public unrest and dissatisfaction with the current government of Iran. All these U.S. threats have started to rally public support and an upswell of jingoistic Iranian patriotism. An attack would solidify the current regime in Iran even more as it destabilizes the country's "moderates" pushing them more to the extreme side, thereby making Iran much more dangerous than it otherwise would be.
So Ahmedinejad would also be pleased I think. Not just with the political boost it would give him at home, but the unmitigated disaster it would be for the U.S. economically, militarily and most importantly in terms of worldwide perception.
So Ahmedinejad would also be pleased I think. Not just with the political boost it would give him at home, but the unmitigated disaster it would be for the U.S. economically, militarily and most importantly in terms of worldwide perception.
greatcalgarian
Well-Known Member
There has to be a ground invasion eventually, most likely the Israeli army. Anyway, the US would have all the intelligent information needed to send the precision missles and likely that Ahmadinejad will be vaporised by one of those mini-nuke that can penetrate anything underground. So he has no place to hide away from being killed, if the attacks were to take place.
greatcalgarian
Well-Known Member
doppelgänger;965482 said:
I do not read many reports from Iran on public unrest and dissatisfaction of the Iranians with their government. If you have the source, please let me know. This information may have been disinforamtion from the west MSM to provide justification for starting the war with Iran, and subsequent invasion.
The US CIA always provide disinformation, and a small number of 'freedom fighters' in the 'oppressed dictatorial government' (for example, China, Burma, Iraq etc) have been given the wrong picture of the actual situation, thinking the situation is riped to overthrow the government, and went into protest (TienAnMeng incident in China, 1988 and 2007 uprising in Burma, and various Kurds uprising in Iraq). So in the Iran case currently, the same disinformation may again be spread by the CIA, hoping that the US public will be led into the belief that Iran's public is against the current government, and hence will gather around Bush to launch the attack.
lilithu
The Devil's Advocate
:areyoucra
So you think "Reading Lolita in Tehran" is just disinformation from the West? Is Azar Nafisi a Western plant? Do you think the women who engaged in civil disobedience by learning to drive are satisfied with their condition?
Do you think the BGLT in Iran are happy being told they don't exist? And being executed when it's discovered that they do exist?
Do you think the Baha'i are happy being persecuted? Our Baha'i office manager, who fled Iran for religious freedom, thinks that the U.S. should go to war.
Look, I am NOT advocating for war with Iran. I think war with Iran would be wrong for all the reasons that Dopp listed and also because war is the admission of spiritual failure, imo. But I don't see how anyone can with a straight face say that things are hunky dory over in Iran.
greatcalgarian
Well-Known Member
What I am saying is that we read about views written by people outside Iran. We have not that many news from those living in Iran. I know you are going to say there is no freedom of press, and no freedom of expression in Iran, so you will not be reading any opposition news. That is not true, as we know the President and the final real authority of the religious leader do not see eye to eye, and we can read about their disagreement.
I have not make a study of Bahai faith persecution in Iran. Perhaps it is as depicted by the west MSM, perhaps it is again something the west is making use of trying to create unrest in Iran, so as to fascilitate a military invasion, or a regime change, so that US can put some one like the Shah one more time in charge.
I guess women's rights in Iran should just be ignored. I suppose there is not any homosexuals in Iran either. We should all just focus on hating our current president and spend more time welcoming Iran's president to speak here in the U.S.A.
I guess it is fine that Iran's threat to Isreal is taken so lightly and the suggestion that the holocaust never happened should just be ignored.
I believe we can just sit this one out anyway. Isreal will eliminate the problem with a push of a button. Problem solved right?
I guess it is fine that Iran's threat to Isreal is taken so lightly and the suggestion that the holocaust never happened should just be ignored.
I believe we can just sit this one out anyway. Isreal will eliminate the problem with a push of a button. Problem solved right?
greatcalgarian
Well-Known Member
It is very important for US to invade Iran for the following reasons:
(1) Iran is abusing their women, a very bad women's rights record, women are not allowed to vote, not allowed to study in the university, women must veil themselves in public, not to expose their hair, only the eyes can be exposed.
(2) Iran is persecuting the homosexual in Iran. They have virtually killed all homosexual. That is the reason why their President, Ahmadinejad announced with full confidence that there was no homosexual phenomenon in Iran when asked by the President of the Columbia University when he was invited as an honor speaker talking about human right and political right in Iran.
(3) Iran is religiously intolerant. Bahai believers are persecuted daily, no Bahai held office or worked in the government. Bahai are not allowed to practive their religious belief, whether in public or in private. Their holy sites have been demolish, and mosque built upon them. All have gone underground.
(4) Although Iran consitutution officially allowed four other religions to practice in Iran, these are just on paper. In actuality, persecution of all religions have been going on since the 1979 revolution.
(5) Iranians have an inherent hatred for Jews, not the Zionist. Hence the Iranian government wanted to drive the Jews into the Mediteranean to drown all of them.
(6) The Iranians are also cunning. They have fooled the UN inspection, and have moved and hidden all their program and building and laboratory of nuclear weapons.
(7) Iran supported the 19 Arabs that flew four planes in US and killed over 3000 US citizen.
For the above 7 reasons, it is fully justified for US to use all weapons available to attack the Iran, removing the current government, and put the minority religious Iranians to be the ruler and subject the majority Muslim to be persecuted. This is in the name of democracy, fighting Islamic terrorists, to make the world a safer and better world. Amen.
greatcalgarian
Well-Known Member
Let us read and listen to something cheerful about Iran:
Iranian Cultural & Information Center
This link provides many link to the news from Iran:
New Page 1
For example:
Tehran Times Daily NewsPaper :: www.tehrantimes.com
So, to see whether Iran has homosexual or not, go and find out from the horse's mouth.
Iranian Cultural & Information Center
This link provides many link to the news from Iran:
New Page 1
For example:
Tehran Times Daily NewsPaper :: www.tehrantimes.com
So, to see whether Iran has homosexual or not, go and find out from the horse's mouth.
AslanDesu
Member
ALL BEWARE THE REIGN OF THE ZORASTRIAN!
lilithu
The Devil's Advocate
"Reading Lolita in Tehran" was written by a woman who had been living in Iran.
And you think my Iranian Baha'i officemate is being paid by "the West" to tell me how bad it was for her there, right? :sarcastic
vandervalley
Active Member
Originally Posted by fullyveiled muslimah
So as I said before, why not go for North Korea? They have weapons defintely and they are a hostile country to US.
China.
Actually it's because of Russia. Russians don't like Americans having control or even slightest influence in countries that share border with it; and North Korea is one such country.
In other words; If Iraq shares border with Russia then Iraq would not have being invaded.
Let's face it; Russians don't like US in it's own backyard
.lava
Veteran Member
i agree with this. cold war is over so it is time to share.
greatcalgarian
Well-Known Member
No. I agree that Bahai has been persecuted in Iran. Bahai is an off branch of Islam, just like Later Day Saint etc, which has also been persecuted by Christians as well.
Religious persecution (involving a very small number of people, usually), if being used by politician of foreign power, to disrupt and destroy the existing government of a country, in order to achieve control of the country is not an acceptable practice. We should look after the minority rights, but not being made use of as an excuse to cause suffering for the majority, which is also not correct. What need to be done is just to pressurise the existing majority ruling oppressing government to become more liberal in the treatment of the minority religion. For example, Iran government is not completely suppressing religious freedom, it is, in fact more liberal that the Saudi government, in that in the constitution, four other religions are allowed to exist and practiced among own believers, though not allowed to "evangelize" to the Muslim. Certain discrimination in terms of job opportunity is not avoidable, that is human society natural preservation of own species, just like in the west, Christians will look after Christians in the work, etc etc.
greatcalgarian
Well-Known Member
I believe you are wrong. In the 1950 Korean War, it was the China that provided support to the North Korea. Korea does not have a border with Russia, but the northern border is with China.
greatcalgarian
Well-Known Member
Actually a new cold war has just started, with three power group:
(1) US - UK alliance
(2) European Union
(3) Russia - China alliance.
.lava
Veteran Member
i can't deny that. imo the reason why they have this cold war between is middle east. they all want to have the area.
vandervalley
Active Member
Actually it was under Stalin's order that China sent army to help the north koreans; at that time Mao needed Soviet's support in everything; economically and militarily. Stalin's Russia also supported North Koreans and other communist conuntries during 1950s
Do a bit of research on wiki and u will find that North Korea does share a common border with Russia
North Korea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia