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Buttercup

Buttercup

Veteran Member
Yeah, I'm worried that the attributes which made RF a great place are being whittled down and the forum will at some point cease to look at all similar to the place it used to be. What makes RF special started from the top and went down to the members which are truly the heart of a forum atmosphere. If the core members leave will it be the same at all? :shrug:
 
Quagmire

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
Ya know guys, I think threads and posts like these are probably causing more damage than anything that's actually happening behind the scenes.
 
Gentoo

Gentoo

The Feisty Penguin
Quagmire said:
Ya know guys, I think threads and posts like these are probably causing more damage than anything that's actually happening behind the scenes.
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I think they should voice they're concerns, as obviously they have concerns.
 
Guitar's Cry

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
I personally feel that it's the members that make this forum great. If enough members wish to stay on and preserve the greatness of this forum by being powerful voices against what they perceive as a threat, it will remain what it is. :)
 
Quagmire

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
Gentoo said:
I think they should voice they're concerns, as obviously they have concerns.
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That's exactly what I'm doing.

Saying something like, "Well it's broke now" isn't expressing a concern---at least not one that anyone can work with-- it's passing a judgement. what are you supposed to do with that?

It seems to me like alot of people are getting upset over worst case scenario hypotheticals as if they've already been proven.
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Guitar's Cry said:
I personally feel that it's the members that make this forum great. If enough members wish to stay on and preserve the greatness of this forum by being powerful voices against what they perceive as a threat, it will remain what it is. :)
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That is true.
You can't improve anything by leaving.
In fact very little has changed with the forum.
OK we have lost a few frills that could not survive the update for technical reasons.
Everything else has been agreed by members mods smods and admins, before any changes at all were made.
as they say where is the beef?

The new owner has been noticeable for his non-action, we have noticed him around from time to time, But if you had bought a new property wouldn't you check it out from time to time.
And Marka whose job it is to look after this forum always communicates every thing that wee need to know, and will listen to anyone.
None of us in this life gets everything our own way , and a Forum is no different.
However I would say all the slight changes that have been made, have all been improvements.
 
FFH

FFH

Veteran Member
One thing you can count on Standing Alone, and that is change, either positive or negative, get used to it...

This life is a circus, you never know what you're gonna get...

Lot's of freaks and freaky stuff happens to us in this life, get used to it, deal with it...
 
doppelganger

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
Everyone needs to voice their concerns. Whether the domain name and the software belong to some particular person, the community that is RF definitely does not belong to anyone but the members of that community.
 
Jaymes

Jaymes

The cake is a lie
I can't speak for standing_alone, FFH, but I'm very much dealing with it. I'm dealing with it by refusing to put up with it anymore. :)
 
Willamena

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Quagmire said:
Ya know guys, I think threads and posts like these are probably causing more damage than anything that's actually happening behind the scenes.
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Just so.

Edit: Pronouncements of the death of what is still a very active and attractive forum don't help anything.
 
Guitar's Cry

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Terrywoodenpic said:
That is true.
You can't improve anything by leaving.
In fact very little has changed with the forum.
OK we have lost a few frills that could not survive the update for technical reasons.
Everything else has been agreed by members mods smods and admins, before any changes at all were made.
as they say where is the beef?

The new owner has been noticeable for his non-action, we have noticed him around from time to time, But if you had bought a new property wouldn't you check it out from time to time.
And Marka whose job it is to look after this forum always communicates every thing that wee need to know, and will listen to anyone.
None of us in this life gets everything our own way , and a Forum is no different.
However I would say all the slight changes that have been made, have all been improvements.
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My fear is that with so many members that have stood out in the forum leaving, it will make it harder to get new members. One of the things that attracted me to the forum was the personalities of some of the prominent posters; Danisty included. Will that affect the forum? Of course!

Gaining new members is great, but keeping the older ones is imperative to RF's public image.

Which is why I'd rather see people stay and make a difference by being themselves. I also hope the new owners realize this. The damage is done on both sides of the issue, and we need to work together to help mend it.
 
Buttercup

Buttercup

Veteran Member
Personally, I think it's best to let people air their gripes openly and get them out of the way. Only then can we move forward, imo.
 
Booko

Booko

Deviled Hen
Terrywoodenpic said:
That is true.
You can't improve anything by leaving.
In fact very little has changed with the forum.
OK we have lost a few frills that could not survive the update for technical reasons.
Everything else has been agreed by members mods smods and admins, before any changes at all were made.
as they say where is the beef?

The new owner has been noticeable for his non-action, we have noticed him around from time to time, But if you had bought a new property wouldn't you check it out from time to time.
And Marka whose job it is to look after this forum always communicates every thing that wee need to know, and will listen to anyone.
None of us in this life gets everything our own way , and a Forum is no different.
However I would say all the slight changes that have been made, have all been improvements.
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Thanks for the humour, though I expect it was unintended.
 
Ozzie

Ozzie

Well-Known Member
Buttercup said:
Personally, I think it's best to let people air their gripes openly and get them out of the way. Only then can we move forward, imo.
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The only way to test benevolence is healthy dissent. This is the only forum I make time for. I have been struck by the wave of reactions to Danisty. It put paid to any theory that the online community is not a "real" community.
 
Buttercup

Buttercup

Veteran Member
Ozzie said:
The only way to test benevolence is healthy dissent. This is the only forum I make time for. I have been struck by the wave of reactions to Danisty. It put paid to any theory that the online community is not a "real" community.
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I'm not sure I'm following you my friend, Ozzie.

Are you saying all this complaining by the members is not healthy or is healthy?

And why isn't an online community a real community in a sense? I think it is.
 
Ozzie

Ozzie

Well-Known Member
Buttercup said:
I'm not sure I'm following you my friend, Ozzie.

Are you saying all this complaining by the members is not healthy or is healthy?

And why isn't an online community a real community in a sense? I think it is.
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I'm saying it is healthy. Then again there is a point arrived at when "benevolent" administrators might decide dissent in unhealthy as the current situation exhibits. As usual, it is necessary to find the middle way. ;)

And the community comment was for anyone who might think their participation here is virtual.
 
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