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That is what the bible teaches, that he was crucified with two criminals. I certainly did not witness this with my own eyes, as it was about 2,000 years ago or so.
Free4all
It's all about the blood
Yes,
And Pilate wrote a title, and put [it] on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS. John 19:19
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of [our] faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Heb. 12:2
And Pilate wrote a title, and put [it] on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS. John 19:19
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of [our] faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Heb. 12:2
s2a
Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator
Three questions arise...
1) What does the Bible account of His (Jesus') alleged crucifixion? Did Jesus actually "die'"?
2) What do extra-Biblical accounts support/detail regarding Jesus' alleged crucifixion/death?
3) Is "confirmation bias" an especially compelling form of argument in testimonial of any alleged "historical fact"?
Just wondering...
Prometheus
Semper Perconctor
Or was it "This is Jesus the King of the Jews." Matt 27:37, "The King of the Jews." Mark 15:26, or even "This is the King of the Jews." Luke 23:38?
So confusing.
yossarian22
Resident Schizophrenic
Is that true? Because suddenly my sarcastic comments have a bit a truth behind them and cross the line into satire if it is.
It was a tree, but it was sort of cross shaped. 
There is no proof even for his existence. No contemporary witnesses. I don't believe in a person who walked on water, revived decomposing dead people etc. IMO there might very well have been people named Jesus that were crucified, but none of them was the person whose actions and sayings are written in the Gospels.
Scott1
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I think so.... but let's cut to the chase....
JW view: Did Jesus Die on a Cross?
Christian view: Cross or torture Stake? (This Rock: October 1991)
Decide for yourself.
maybe it would be best to go to the official JW link rather than a place that is about refuting JW .I think so.... but let's cut to the chase....
JW view: Did Jesus Die on a Cross?
Christian view: Cross or torture Stake? (This Rock: October 1991)
Decide for yourself.
Did Jesus Really Die on a Cross? now thats better
Free4all
It's all about the blood
I see no problem, they all reference the same event. Your not gnat straining are you? :sarcastic
Popeyesays
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A stake with a cross bar to elevate IS a cross. To be more efficient curcifixion requires the arms to be extended to hasten death. he Romans were all about efficiency, especially in crucifixion: refer to the mass executions following the Slave Rebellion led by the gladiator Spartacus. Trees were used, and crosses were erected whenever the trees were to few or too far away from the road for travellers to see.
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Scott
Regards,
Scott
logician
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What's the old Lenny Bruce joke, if Jesus had died in an electric chair, children in Catholic schools would be wearing little electric chairs around their necks instead of crosses.