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Was Cain's wife human?
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standing_on_one_foot
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From Adam and Eve, you'd assume...
john313
warrior-poet
Genesis 5:3 lists Adam's first child as Seth(after Cain and Abel). Genesis 4:25 says"Adam knew his wife again and she bore a son and named him Seth, "For God has appointed another seed for me instead of Abel, whom Cain killed."" There are no females listed as being born until after Seth was born, when Adam was 130, after Cain killed Abel and "knew" his wife.
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Majikthise
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From a creationists standpoint,I guess we really are all brothers and sisters(SHIVER!).
standing_on_one_foot
Well-Known Member
Perhaps there were females in the meantime who weren't mentioned? It doesn't say it's his first child after those two, only that it's his first son (one to replace Abel, which I suppose a female couldn't do).
Linus
Well-Known Member
The same terminology is used in the beginning of that chapter with the birth of Cain and Abel. I don't see what the issue is. Eve was his wife and he "had relations" (NIV) with her so she bore children. Why does this automatically bring into question Eve's origin?john313 said:
Linus
Well-Known Member
I see. My mistake.john313 said:
The truth is that we do not know who Cain's wife was, and I would never recommend making assumptions and presuming them to be true. But if I had to assume, I would say that she was human, seeing as how they had human children. But as far as her identity goes, I would say she was probably either a sister, or some other person that God had created. I would not rule out the possibility that God, at this point, had been creating more people along with Adam and Eve, but we are just not told about them. But we are not told, so we just plain don't know for sure.
in genisis it states that when kain killed abel, god came to him and confronted him. kain was scared he would be killed and god assured him no harm would befall him. then it states that kain was scared that someone else would kill him and god again assured him that he would not be harmed. but god told him that he must leave his birth land and so he did and then he found a wife in a forigen land. now it seems to me that adam was not the first man on earth. the way i see it, the bible is focusing on one family bloodline. whether or not this family is royal is up for debate. i believe this because if you notice all of the ancient writings, they speek only of the elite not of the simple man and his life. why should the bible be any different. besides is states that the wife was from somewhere else and that kain was afraid someone else would kill him. it speeks not of his family. if kain had married a sister, than it would have stated that kain took his family with him when he left, not that he married a woman where he decided to settle. now whether she was not human? funny cause i just read a book that deals with mesopotamia. and according to this book which the author got his information ideas from the writings of summer. this guy is convinced that aliens played a major part in life in mesopotamia. to the point that they created humans via an ape female. he says he got the idea from the writings from summer. so maybe it is possible. the writings from genisis are borrowed from older writings and this is historical fact. i feel that the wife was human and not a relative.
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Majikthise
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So the creatin story is metaphor?
no the story to me seems to deal with a single family. a family that was chosen by god for what ever reason. think about it, it states that he took a wife in a foreign land. obviously this means that other people were alive and well. besides from adam came the prophets adam was the first one who did a convent with god. and another statement which is always repeated with the decendants of adam is that a great nation of kings will come from the seed.
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Majikthise
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I will try to come back to this tommorow.I'ts interesting.nighty night.
standing_on_one_foot
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I always did wonder who those strangers he was so worried about killing him would be...I mean, we've only heard about two other humans on the planet.
Melody
Well-Known Member
Interesting. When I read this, I also get the idea that there are other people but wondered why only Adam and Eve and their descendants were mentioned. It never occurred to me that it was only because this one lineage was important. It does make sense though.almifkhar said:
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Majikthise
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It still doesn't make any sense to me.If genesis is using other people along in history and this Adam wasn't the first one, who was? When did God actually create the first human? If what's stated here is true it still smacks of metaphor and could be construed as an arguement FOR evolutionary theory.:banghead3
Linus
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When did anyone say that Adam was not the first one? Adam was the first one, but he was the first of probably many. Other people were probably created besides Adam and Eve, It's just that Adam and Eve's lineage is thee most important because they were the first. From their line would come the Messiah, Jesus Christ. Does that make sense?Majikthise said:
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Majikthise
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almifkhar said:
Linus
Well-Known Member
I see. Well I will have to disagree on the point that Adam was not the first man. It is recorded that Adam was created first, then Eve, then the story continues from there. I can't say that Adam was not the first man because we simply have no evidence that says otherwize.