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Evolution and God

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
from the images I've seen of the brain in action... we use a lot of it for different things and basically use all of it. Do we optimize this use? I'm not sure but we do infact use all of it.

quote from an aticle by the university of Rochester:
There’s an old myth that we only use 10 percent of our brains, but researchers at the University of Rochester have found in reality that roughly 80 percent of our cognitive power may be cranking away on tasks completely unknown to us.
“This means that in adults, there is a tremendous amount of real-world processing going on—80 percent—when there is nothing to process,” says Weliky. “We think that if you’ve got your eyes closed, your visual processing is pretty much at zero, and that when you open them, you’re running at 100 percent. This suggests that with your eyes closed, your visual processing is already running at 80 percent, and that opening your eyes only adds the last 20 percent. The big question here is what is the brain doing when it’s idling, because it’s obviously doing something important.”
the rest of the article can be found here: http://www.rochester.edu/news/show.php?id=1898

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painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
er, this study is about how to watch the brain function using nano-tec. While a worthwhile and facinating study I'm not sure that it supports your 10% idea.

I wonder if they really will manage to make a 'camera' that small... they are doing some very interesting things with C60 (buckminsterfullerine) in producing nanostructures.

If it works we will be a step closer to both cybernetics, quantum computing and artifical inteligence.:cool:

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t3gah

Well-Known Member
painted wolf said:
er, this study is about how to watch the brain function using nano-tec. While a worthwhile and facinating study I'm not sure that it supports your 10% idea.

I wonder if they really will manage to make a 'camera' that small... they are doing some very interesting things with C60 (buckminsterfullerine) in producing nanostructures.

If it works we will be a step closer to both cybernetics, quantum computing and artifical inteligence.:cool:

wa:do
I never said 10 percent. I said 1 to 5 percent.
 

mahayana

Member
Hmmm...that was a dense 17 pages to read through.

I usually agree with the original poster, that evolution can be looked at as the way ongoing creation proceeds.

The people who think that abiogenesis or science somehow deny God, tend to be ones that believe in absolute, revealed truth, and the infallibility of the Bible's literal statements.

Creation, as an event that occurred about 5,600 years ago, does seem to be a fiction. Not a particularly satisfying creation story for most moderns. But if some prefer that to science, that's their business.

I did notice one strange post about 10 pages back-

"Back to the point. That being that evolution cannot take place. I have already stated the genetic impossibiblity of it. No matter what adaptions animals make, they cannot change the DNA in their gene pool without mating with another species. No matter how much time goes by, all that an animal can do is mate with other animals of its kind. Their offspring and theirs and theirs will always be that same animal."

My understanding is that mutations of DNA in reproductive cells is the chief natural mechanism of change, not animals breeding with each other. In other words, damage to existing DNA in sex cells, by gamma rays or other radiation, is what usually creates new DNA. Most mutations are fatal, but the very few which do wind up as a viable embryo, a viable offspring, a new adult which is not sterile, reproduces with the parent's group...these are the Adams or Eves of potential new species. Their changed DNA may not be outwardly apparent. Speciation is a long process, incomplete until enough of the mutated genes have "expressed" in following generations. When groups which show the new trait(s) cannot reproduce with populations of the original species then they are a different species.

Colchicine (from autumn crocus) and other chemicals have been used to produce mutations in plants.

And "shotgunning" of cell nucleus material into fertilized cells is being used to combine DNAs under laboratory conditions. This is where the "gene-spliced" new lifeforms are coming from. Some of these may become new species- the potential of genetic engineering is enormous.

If you're religious, God may be using people as an agent of creation today.
 
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