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What is war on terrorism?

TranceAm

Member
Mr_Spinkles said:
Now for my next question: What did Halliburton give to Bush in return for his services, and what evidence is there to support such a claim?
Who says that they have to give anything to Bush?
In the militairy, the point man is never the commander.
(Who was shot: Kennedy or Johnson?, Reagan (By the son of an oil-buddy of Bush 41) or Bush 41?)

In a chess game you hide your king behind your other pieces.
(Who is constantly kept safe in an undisclosed location?)

Who was boss of Haliburton?
Who still has stock of Haliburton?

Who looks like the brain in the Bush administration?

Who has the brains in the Bush administration?

Who is the guy that keeps running companies in the ground
Who is the one that runs them successfully?
( And the US is one gigantic company. )

:D

And we all saw how the Commander of thiefs handled 911 in a little school in Florida.
He went "blank".... :woohoo:
 
Nice very nice, if we look at bush his admin and the poloticians that preceded him it doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that this is all a corporate take over.

Cheney he is a whole nother story KBR sold to halliburton silent chariman recieving leave pay from his company while he is in office. I have to find where its located but i know there is supposed to be strict rules against the pres and vice pres having anything to do with their previous buisnesses.
 

TranceAm

Member
TheIdealist said:
Nice very nice, if we look at bush his admin and the poloticians that preceded him it doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that this is all a corporate take over.
And we know (or should know!! :rolleyes: ) what Mussolini said about Fascism.

"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power. -- Benito Mussolini, 1883-1945, Fascist dictator of Italy"
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
I understand that the Iraqi Freedom Fighters are having a heck of a time with the terrorists who have occupied their country.

Let's face it, no matter how noble our intentions, that's how they perceive us. It's time to bring our kids back home.
 

Andra130

Member
NetDoc said:
Let's face it, no matter how noble our intentions, that's how they perceive us. It's time to bring our kids back home.
Nuf Said!
I do have to add that some of these previous posts are starting to sound a lot like some thing from "Fahrenheit 9/11".

How much has this movie (or others such as "Bush's Brain", "Micheal Moore Hates America" or "Uncovered: the war in Iraq") affected your view on the war or Pres. Bush Jr.? :rolleyes:
 

TranceAm

Member
Andra130 said:
Nuf Said!
I do have to add that some of these previous posts are starting to sound a lot like some thing from "Fahrenheit 9/11".

How much has this movie (or others such as "Bush's Brain", "Micheal Moore Hates America" or "Uncovered: the war in Iraq") affected your view on the war or Pres. Bush Jr.? :rolleyes:
Not to much. Most of it was known on the internet allready a couple of weeks after 911.

Hot enough to melt steel : See her waving?
http://www.libertyforum.org/showfla...earchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=1week&Main=293277333

And there is a lot of steel there:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc1_core.html

But what really happenened:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/motherofallscandals.html
2001 It is discovered that US drug agents’ communications have been penetrated. Suspicion falls on two companies, AMDOCS and Comverse Infosys, both owned by Israelis. AMDOCS generates billing data for most US phone companies and is able to provide detailed logs of who is talking to whom. Comverse Infosys builds the tapping equipment used by law enforcement to eavesdrop on all American telephone calls, but suspicion forms that Comverse, which gets half of its research and development budget from the Israeli government, has built a back door into the system that is being exploited by Israeli intelligence and that the information gleaned on US drug interdiction efforts is finding its way to drug smugglers. The investigation by the FBI leads to the exposure of the largest foreign spy ring ever uncovered inside the United States, operated by Israel. Half of the suspected spies have been arrested when 9-11 happens. On 9-11, 5 Israelis are arrested for dancing and cheering while the World Trade Towers collapse. Supposedly employed by Urban Moving Systems, the Israelis are caught with multiple passports and a lot of cash. Two of them are later revealed to be Mossad. As witness reports track the activity of the Israelis, it emerges that they were seen at Liberty Park at the time of the first impact, suggesting a foreknowledge of what was to come. The Israelis are interrogated, and then eventually sent back to Israel. The owner of the moving company used as a cover by the Mossad agents abandons his business and flees to Israel. The United States Government then classifies all of the evidence related to the Israeli agents and their connections to 9-11. All of this is reported to the public via a four part story on Fox News by Carl Cameron. Pressure from Jewish groups, primarily AIPAC, forces Fox News to remove the story from their website. Two hours prior to the 9-11 attacks, Odigo, an Israeli company with offices just a few blocks from the World Trade Towers, receives an advance warning via the internet. The manager of the New York Office provides the FBI with the IP address of the sender of the message, but the FBI does not follow up.

Strange, I didn't see anyof this in Fahreheid 911...
But then again, a good halftruth always contains some truth..
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Moore is to the left what Limbaugh is to the right.

I laughed at the lampoons and twists he used to characterize this president. Almost as much as I laugh at Limbaugh's antics. Both of them have trivialized themselves into meaninglessness.

FWIW, I liked Daddy Bush alright. I didn't vote FOR him, but my vote was surely not AGAINST him either.
 

TranceAm

Member
NetDoc said:
Moore is to the left what Limbaugh is to the right.

I laughed at the lampoons and twists he used to characterize this president. Almost as much as I laugh at Limbaugh's antics. Both of them have trivialized themselves into meaninglessness.

FWIW, I liked Daddy Bush alright. I didn't vote FOR him, but my vote was surely not AGAINST him either.
Heh, Just imagine.
Daddy Bush alsmost became upgraded to Prez without any voting, because of an assasination attempt by a son of one of his oil friend's (Hinckley).

http://www.hereinreality.com/hinckley.html

"The family of the man charged with trying to assassinate President Reagan is acquainted with the family of Vice President George Bush and had made large contributions to his political campaign, the Houston Post reported today.

The newspaper said in a copyright story, Scott Hinckley, brother of John W. Hinckley Jr., who allegedly shot Reagan, was to have dined tonight in Denver at the home of Neil Bush, one of the vice president's sons. The newspaper said it was unable to reach Scott Hinckley, vice president of his father's Denver-based firm, Vanderbilt Energy Corp., for comment. Neil Bush lives in Denver, where he works for Standard Oil Co. of Indiana.

In 1978, Neil served as campaign manager for his brother, George W. Bush, the vice president's oldest son, who made an unsuccessful bid for Congress. Neil lived in Lubbock throughout much of 1978, where John Hinckley lived from 1974 through 1980.

On Monday, Neil Bush said he did not know if he had ever met 25-year-old John Hinckley.


"I have no idea," he said. "I don't recognize any pictures of him. I just wish I could see a better picture of him.


Sharon Bush, Neil's wife, said Scott Hinckley was coming to their house as a date of a girl friend of hers. "I don't even know the brother. From what I know and I've heard, they (the Hinckleys) are a very nice family and have given a lot of money to the Bush campaign. I understand he was just the renegade brother in the family. They must feel awful," she said.

The dinner was canceled, she added.

George W. Bush said he was unsure whether he had met John W. Hinckley.


:jam:
 
NetDoc said:
I understand that the Iraqi Freedom Fighters are having a heck of a time with the terrorists who have occupied their country.



Let's face it, no matter how noble our intentions, that's how they perceive us. It's time to bring our kids back home.

Iam sure there are some that percieve us terrorists but i can promise you its not even close to the ones that see us as brothers helping our family become free, I spent quite a bit of time over there and it would devistate alot of soldiers and marines including myself to walk away now and watch the surrounding countries pour in on them and crush there dreams once again.

Whether we agree with the war starting or not its to late we are already there and now it has become our duty to help these people become independant just because they are not our country men does not make us exempt from rising up to help them we share the same planet. It would be murder of the masses for us to leave now.

I understand people wanting there family and friends home. I also understand there probably was not much to do with noble intentions when it began and there is probably

still not noble intentions at the top but there is among the troops there are some who complain and speak out making it look worse than it is but i can promise most of us enjoy helping whether we admit to or not. We understand dying for the betterment of mankind not just americans. We all knew what we were getting into.
 

TranceAm

Member
TheIdealist said:
Iam sure there are some that percieve us terrorists but i can promise you its not even close to the ones that see us as brothers helping our family become free,
Free from what? Their resources? Their own form of governement? The muslims did perfectly well case civilisation for ages. And if it hadn't been for Western Interfering, They would probably still do very well. I think the ultimate in western civilization was still wearing bearskins in the time, hitting people on the head with pieces of wood.
And as a matter of fact, Western civilisation (Wich according to Ghandi would be a good idea!) stole a lot of ideas for civilization from the muslim civilization.

TheIdealist said:
I spent quite a bit of time over there and it would devistate alot of soldiers and marines including myself to walk away now and watch the surrounding countries pour in on them and crush there dreams once again.

Whether we agree with the war starting or not its to late we are already there
Yep the famous quote.. "We create a reality and while the others are studying that reality, we create a new one". Always one step ahead to keep the others reacting, instead of acting. (Makes one wonder who launched that one silk worm missile into Kuwait, that forced the Americans to immediately attack, instead of waiting for another couple of weeks of air-campaign softening up like in Desert Storm.)

TheIdealist said:
and now it has become our duty to help these people become independant just because they are not our country men does not make us exempt from rising up to help them we share the same planet. It would be murder of the masses for us to leave now.
And for that mass murder is ok?
DU is going to kill people (Maintian low population levels.) in that region for the next 4.500.000.000 years?

TheIdealist said:
I understand people wanting there family and friends home. I also understand there probably was not much to do with noble intentions when it began and there is probably still not noble intentions at the top
Noble intentions don't need lies. Neither does moral high ground be claimed.

TheIdealist said:
but there is among the troops there are some who complain and speak out making it look worse than it is but i can promise most of us enjoy helping whether we admit to or not. We understand dying for the betterment of mankind not just americans. We all knew what we were getting into.
Ah, that explains why a lot don't want to serve a new term or sign up for that, or flee to other countries, or refuse to be kept involuntairy in far away places.
 

t3gah

Well-Known Member
What is war on terrorism?


Something that isn't working and never will.


Two evils don't make a right.


There are always committee's and talks about why these things happen after they kill everyone on both sides.


What a waste of protoplasm.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
TheIdealist said:
Al quaida was group made up by the cia to give the americans some one to focus on.

Regardless of who set up the organization and for which purpose, it is still real.

BTW, have you got a source for that info. I've heard people say it but never seen it verified. Would make an interesting read.

TheIdealist said:
If you have ever seen arabs on tv yelling those words they are refering to "the foundation" which is islam . there is no
hiearchy amongst any of those groups. no one is refereing to bin laden or his group except for us.

This is pinched from an article about two French journalists kidnapped and later released in Iraq:

"he and Chesnot slowly began to realize that they were "living on PLANET BIN LADEN." References to CHIEF OSAMA abounded, he said, and there was much talk of living by Muslim law" (caps mine)

Source: http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,337867,00.html

Maybe the threat from bin Laden is stressed unfairly, but those people don't believe so.

All in though I agree with much of what you are saying.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
t3gah said:
There are always committee's and talks about why these things happen after they kill everyone on both sides.

Nice one. Watch out for those apostrophes though ;-P.
 
"he and Chesnot slowly began to realize that they were "living on PLANET BIN LADEN." References to CHIEF OSAMA abounded, he said, and there was much talk of living by Muslim law" (caps mine)-truthseekingsoul

most popular names in the middle east i ran to were aquil, osama, mustaffa, haquim, hussien
and ammeer . Of course these were just from personal experience so take them for what you want
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
TheIdealist said:
most popular names in the middle east i ran to were aquil, osama, mustaffa, haquim, hussien
and ammeer . Of course these were just from personal experience so take them for what you want

No Muhammad? I had heard that was the most popular name in the region.

Ah well, fair point. I imagine they may well have been reffering to another Osama. The journalists obviously believed bin Laden was the topic though.
 
almost every males name is muhammad because they are muslim but if you have ever been in the middle east you would know that know everyone uses there last name and you never use the name muhammad. Sorry dont mean to be a smart a@#
 
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