The Ocelot said:
That is a problem. Which leads to this: How do you assure yourself heaven? Predestination is unfair and cruel, especially when it means damnation for some and heaven for others.
Well, salvation in Islam come through work and faith together unlike christianity which says basically, you can kill, rape, steal and fornicate and dont worry about it, Jesus will pay the bill.
I have seen verses in the Koran which are deadly theological errors:
theological errors from christian point of view ???? we dont accept the authority of the bible, the bible for us is corrupt book, we only take what agrees with the Noble Quran.
As a Christian, I believe we were given complete free will. What we do with it is our problem. But God does not show favoritism. He loves us all equally and would not want anyone to go to hell.
According to your bible, NO CHRISTIAN will go to heaven:
For Example :
" But I say to you that every one who is angry with his brother shall be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother shall be liable to the council, and whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be liable to the hell of fire . " Matthew 5:22
Surely most of christians have said bad words now and then, therefore according to Jesus , most of you will taste the Fires of Hell and are not Free from punishment according to Jesus !!!!
Jesus made several statements implanting uncertainty in the hearts and minds of his listeners regarding their Salvation
For Example :
" Not every one who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven . " Matthew 7:21
If Jesus is our Savior , why would he say calling upon him as 'Lord' on the Day of Judgement will Not Save Us ?
Jesus even told a entire generation that there is No Escape from Hell for them, and what they have done will be with them:
"..How can ye escape the damnation of Hell? Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the *blood of Innocent Abel* unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. *Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation* ." Mt 23:33-36
How can a Christian be sure they are saved when Jesus repeatedly says that with a sinning eye or a sinning hand, We Will Go to Hell , Jesus even offers a remedy by suggesting we cut off our hand or pluck out our eye to avoid Hell , this certainly leaves the listeners Unsure if they will go to Hell or not unless they take drastic measures :
" And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire " Mark 9:47
" And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched " Mark 9:43
Jesus even says you will be cast into Hell if you do not behave in accordance with the Will of God :
" And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. " Matthew 3:10
" Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. " Matthew 7:19
How many Christians live undisciplined lives , producing bad fruit and expecting Jesus will save them ? How can they be sure when Jesus makes it perfectly clear they will go to Hell ?
Jesus is saying Every Sinner will be cast into the Fire.
Where does Jesus say every sinner will be saved through the
blood of Jesus ?
Even at the Supper table , Jesus said his blood is shed for _many_ not , all .
It even seems as though Jesus came to Warn you about Hell rather than save you from Hell, Jesus came to give you Uncertainty of our Salvation:
" I have come to cast a fire on the earth; and what will I if already it has been kindled? " Luke 12:49
Jesus also directly warns that if you do not obey him, you will be thrown into Hell:
" Unless any one abide in me he is cast out as the branch, and is dried up; and they gather them and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. " John 15:6 (also John 5:24)
According to the Gospel, it is possible to fall out of the Christian faith through sin;
"For how can those who abandon their faith be brought back to repent again? They were once in God's light; they tasted heaven's gift and received their share of the Holy Spirit; they knew from experience that God's word is good, and they had felt the powers of the coming age. And then they abandoned their faith! It is impossible to bring them back to repent again, because they are again crucifying the Son of God and exposing him to public shame." (Hebrews 6:4-6)
and that Christians are not fully saved until they enter the heavenly kingdom ( 1 Peter 1:4-5)
Even in the Old Testament , there is Absolute Uncertainty if we will go to Hell or not : There is a prediction in Psalms that the Sinners will go to Hell, similar to what Jesus says:
"The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the (nations) that forget God." Ps 9:17
Does this include all with in the evil nations such as Germany in WW!! ? or America during Hiroshima etc.. ?
In Isaiah which we assume predicted Jesus , also predicts Hell will take even the people who are boastful :
" Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it ." Isaiah 5:14
In conclusion , "Let him who thinks he stands take care lest he fall" (1 Corinthians 10:12).
We see that Jesus did not come to remove _all_ sin, but in fact to warn us of Hell and assist us in receiving forgiveness, but certainly not removing our responsibility to obey the commandments "otherwise we will
be thrown into Hell" as Jesus continuously warned.
Even at the sacrifice where the crucifixion of Jesus was supposedly a action to forgive the human race, why would Jesus ask God "Forgive them fore they know not what they do" if the crucifixion was indeed the Ultimate sacrifice ? Why would Jesus need to ask God to forgive us if the assumed shedding of Jesus's blood was in fact a means of atonement ?
Unless perhaps the crucifixion was not a ultimate method of forgiveness and in fact we are very much in danger of Hell as it is written in the Old Testament and the Gospel of Jesus .
How then can we be saved if we are still in danger of the Hell Fire as Jesus warns ?
Allah (which means - God - in the Semitic Arabic language) gives us many clear signs in the Holy Quran to assure us we will be saved , Allah clarifies the Favors bestowed upon us and in return Allah only asks you believe in the Day of Judgement , in those Allah sent to us (including Jesus) and follow the teachings of the Quran .
" Those who believe, and do deeds of righteousness, and establish regular prayers and regular charity, will have their reward with their Lord: on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve . " {Translation of the Holy Quran 2:277}
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