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The True Church

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thedictator

A Dictator of a Coach
Marks of the True Church

1. Believes that Jesus Christ is God. John 1:1

2. Has no Head of the church but Jesus. Ephesians 5:23

3. Teaches truth not Denominationalism. Mark 7:7-8

4. Teaches that The Bible is the True Word of God, and is without error. 2 Timothy 3:16-17

5. Teaches that Authority comes from the word of God not leaders in the Church. 1 Thessalonians 4:2, Acts 2:42

6. Teaches Believers Baptism. Mark 16:16

7. Teaches that Repentance and Baptism is for the Forgiveness of Sins and the way to receive the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38, Romans 6:3-4

8. Teaches that Jesus is the only way to heaven. Acts 4:12

9. Teaches that Sinners will go to Hell. Revelation 21:8, 20:11-15

10. Takes care of the Poor. James 1:27

11. And does the Great Commission. Matthew 28:18-20
 
TheGreaterGame

TheGreaterGame

Active Member
thedictator said:
Marks of the True Church

1. Believes that Jesus Christ is God. John 1:1

2. Has no Head of the church but Jesus. Ephesians 5:23

3. Teaches truth not Denominationalism. Mark 7:7-8

4. Teaches that The Bible is the True Word of God, and is without error. 2 Timothy 3:16-17

5. Teaches that Authority comes from the word of God not leaders in the Church. 1 Thessalonians 4:2, Acts 2:42

6. Teaches Believers Baptism. Mark 16:16

7. Teaches that Repentance and Baptism is for the Forgiveness of Sins and the way to receive the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38, Romans 6:3-4

8. Teaches that Jesus is the only way to heaven. Acts 4:12

9. Teaches that Sinners will go to Hell. Revelation 21:8, 20:11-15

10. Takes care of the Poor. James 1:27

11. And does the Great Commission. Matthew 28:18-20
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So People are saved by Baptism? This is not so. Please tell me that you don't belive that.
 
Aqualung

Aqualung

Tasty
thedictator said:
4. Teaches that The Bible is the True Word of God, and is without error. 2 Timothy 3:16-17
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This teaches that all SCRIPTURE is the word of god and without error. But you are missing a logical step. This is what you say:

P1: All scripture is given of God and perfect - 2 Tim...

C: Therefore, the Bible is perfect.

Your conclusion is not based on your premises. In order for this to be true, you have to prove a second premise:

P1: All scripture is given of God etc.
P2: God has stated that the Bible is scripture

C: Therefore, the Bible is perfect, etc.

You have not proved P2, and therefore you conclusion DOES NOT FOLLOW.
 
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Ronald

Well-Known Member
Church of Christ is Replacement Theology! True Church, I think not!
You folk think the God of the Old Covenant made a mistake in choosing the Children of Israel as a chosen people! Gave up on them nailed the Torah to the cross and gave all the promises to the Church of Christ. Not even close!
Since you only accept the New Testament;
Ro 11:26 and so all Israel will be saved; as it is written, "The Deliverer will come from Zion, he will banish ungodliness from Jacob";
Jn. 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears my word and believes him who sent me, has eternal life; he does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

The Only True Church is one that is in lock step with the Moshiach, Hears the Word of God and Does it! Shema v'shamar!
 
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Ronald

Well-Known Member
Aqualung said:
This teaches that all SCRIPTURE is the word of god and without error. But you are missing a logical step. This is what you say:

P1: All scripture is given of God and perfect - 2 Tim...

C: Therefore, the Bible is perfect.

Your conclusion is not based on your premises. In order for this to be true, you have to prove a second premise:

P1: All scripture is given of God etc.
P2: God has stated that the Bible is scripture

C: Therefore, the Bible is perfect, etc.

You have not proved P2, and therefore you conclusion DOES NOT FOLLOW.
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You only missed his misquote of 2 Timothy 3:16-17, All scripture is inspired by God-
And that means TaNacK, as there was no NT at that time to be scripture or otherwise!
Mt. 4:4 Yeshua quotes the Torah "Man does not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God." The Word of God is Torah!

Shalom
 
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may

Well-Known Member
thedictator said:
Marks of the True Church

1. Believes that Jesus Christ is God. John 1:1
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Jesus did not teach us that he was God , and the bible doesnt either , and as the early christians were told , the apostacy would take hold , and it sure did , and the Trinity teaching is a major part of that apostacy, among other things . And the bible has been translated to cloud peoples thoughts. i am glad to say that there are some bibles around that have been translated inline with the original thoughts of God and not according to false teachings. and the whole of the bible harmonizes with what Jesus taught us ...... yes he is Gods son ....... many have been led along by false teachers over the centuries and many have got to believe this great lie of the TRINITY. still not to worry ,Jesus sheep will hear his voice and those with the right heart , will come to an accurate knowledge of the true God and Jesus christ
In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.
"A god." Gr., the·os´, in contrast with ton The·on´, "the God," in the same sentence;
JOHN 1;1
This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.... john17;3
During his prehuman existence, Jesus was God’s Word, or Spokesman. (John 1:1) He is described as being "the power of God and the wisdom of God." (1 Corinthians 1:24, 30) What a beautiful description of the Son of God, whose fondness for mankind moved him to give his life as a ransom in their behalf!—John 3:16.
 
wizanda

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Luk 3:16
(16) John answered, saying unto them all, “I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire”:


Mar 10:17-22
(17) And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?
(18) And Yeshua said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
(19) Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
(20) And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.
(21) Then Yeshua beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross (infinity), and follow me.
(22) And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
 
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may

Well-Known Member
wizanda said:
Luk 3:16
(16) John answered, saying unto them all, “I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire”:


Mar 10:17-22
(17) And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?
(18) And Yeshua said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
(19) Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
(20) And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.
(21) Then Yeshua beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross (infinity), and follow me.
(22) And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
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yes it seems he didnt really want to serve God at all , and Jesus knew it .
 
wizanda

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
may said:
yes it seems he didnt really want to serve God at all , and (jesus)knew it .
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Please stop swearing at me :cover: it really does hurt my ears and it isn't fair....can't we add it to the swear filter?
The name is Yeshua ---> meaning salvation in Hebrew, which makes a lot more sense of the Bible, if you understand.
:run:
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
thedictator said:
Marks of the True Church

1. Believes that Jesus Christ is God. John 1:1

2. Has no Head of the church but Jesus. Ephesians 5:23

3. Teaches truth not Denominationalism. Mark 7:7-8

4. Teaches that The Bible is the True Word of God, and is without error. 2 Timothy 3:16-17

5. Teaches that Authority comes from the word of God not leaders in the Church. 1 Thessalonians 4:2, Acts 2:42

6. Teaches Believers Baptism. Mark 16:16

7. Teaches that Repentance and Baptism is for the Forgiveness of Sins and the way to receive the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38, Romans 6:3-4

8. Teaches that Jesus is the only way to heaven. Acts 4:12

9. Teaches that Sinners will go to Hell. Revelation 21:8, 20:11-15

10. Takes care of the Poor. James 1:27

11. And does the Great Commission. Matthew 28:18-20
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For someone who is part of the Stone-Campbell Movement, you really understand very little about the spirit and impetus of your church.

First off, in the perspective of Stone-Campbell, no church would ever make a distinction about what is "true church" and what is not. Therefore, on that basis alone, your post is moot. Second, your post breaks point 11, also excluding your church from "true churchdom," based upon the criteria you have set forth.

The Great Commission includes "telling the Good News." What part of the Good News ever included telling the majority of believers that they are not real believers at all (based upon your criteria of what constitutes a "real believer?")
 
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FatMan

Well-Known Member
Calling any Church the true one or calling any aspect of religion better than another one isn't just arrogant, it's irrationally smug.
 
Smoke

Smoke

Done here.
wizanda said:
Please stop swearing at me :cover: it really does hurt my ears and it isn't fair....can't we add it to the swear filter?
The name is Yeshua ---> meaning salvation in Hebrew, which makes a lot more sense of the Bible, if you understand.
:run:
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Please stop sneezing at me. The name is Iesous. ;)
 
doppelganger

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
There's only one mark of the True Church. It's adherents know there really is no "True Church." Rather, the first shall be last and the last shall be first, because Christ does not come to the righteous, but to sinners.:D
 
Wisdom_Seeker

Wisdom_Seeker

Speaker of my Truth
thedictator said:
Marks of the True Church

1. Believes that Jesus Christ is God. John 1:1

2. Has no Head of the church but Jesus. Ephesians 5:23

3. Teaches truth not Denominationalism. Mark 7:7-8

4. Teaches that The Bible is the True Word of God, and is without error. 2 Timothy 3:16-17

5. Teaches that Authority comes from the word of God not leaders in the Church. 1 Thessalonians 4:2, Acts 2:42

6. Teaches Believers Baptism. Mark 16:16

7. Teaches that Repentance and Baptism is for the Forgiveness of Sins and the way to receive the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38, Romans 6:3-4

8. Teaches that Jesus is the only way to heaven. Acts 4:12

9. Teaches that Sinners will go to Hell. Revelation 21:8, 20:11-15

10. Takes care of the Poor. James 1:27

11. And does the Great Commission. Matthew 28:18-20
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Did you figured this out for yourself, or "borrowed" your beliefs from some sort of a misstranslated book? lol
 
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may

Well-Known Member
doppelgänger;884437 said:
There's only one mark of the True Church. It's adherents know there really is no "True Church." Rather, the first shall be last and the last shall be first, because Christ does not come to the righteous, but to sinners.:D
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make no mistake about it Jesus is feeding his faithful ones MATTHEW 24;45-47 And its all happening in this time that we are living in , the channel Jesus is spiritually feeding are full of good spiritual bible based things to share with others.
 
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