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Are we desensitizating society by using terminology incorrectly? Are we creating misinformation about mental illness by misuse in the commonplace?

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
I was just browsing my reader's group posts and ran across the question:

What are triggers?

The answers were not surprising, but by being grouped together, and all being equally simplistic, I wondered: Are we becoming habitual, as a society, in relating seriously concerning survivor's trauma into commonplace discomfort just so we can say "Me, too!"?

That was the gist of a dozen answers -- a topic that makes the reader uncomfortable. That so belittles the devastation felt by people who have true and very real flashback episodes, IMO.

I have been professionally diagnosed with having Accumulative PTSD for about a decade. I have anxiety from incidents that hit a bit too close to memories, but I would never call them "triggers" as they do not create real-time flashbacks as many vets and survivors of devastating violent acts have to deal with.

So opinons, please.
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
I was just browsing my reader's group posts and ran across the question:

What are triggers?

The answers were not surprising, but by being grouped together, and all being equally simplistic, I wondered: Are we becoming habitual, as a society, in relating seriously concerning survivor's trauma into commonplace discomfort just so we can say "Me, too!"?

That was the gist of a dozen answers -- a topic that makes the reader uncomfortable. That so belittles the devastation felt by people who have true and very real flashback episodes, IMO.

I have been professionally diagnosed with having Accumulative PTSD for about a decade. I have anxiety from incidents that hit a bit too close to memories, but I would never call them "triggers" as they do not create real-time flashbacks as many vets and survivors of devastating violent acts have to deal with.

So opinons, please.
triggers are anything that causes a reaction that causes harm (mental or physical) or worsens symptoms.

When means that your reaction to triggers not being the "stereotypical" reaction does not mean it was not a trigger.

the linked site above goes into much more detail and explains it much better than I ever could.

The reason I linked that particular site is simply because several people I know recommended it to me.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
We live in a world where doom and gloom sells. If all the news stations reported a positive day with nothing negative, people would feel good. They would to shut off the media, and go to the beach and hang with friends. If, instead, the media purposely brings out the inner rubber necker of the audience, with non stop tragedy, the audience will stay tuned, hoping to see even more blood and gore. Negative sells more commercial time.

This money making formula is based on the ego and human nature. Tragedy places someone else in a hole. This creates a relative reference effect where the audience feels like they now rise above; my life is not so bad from where I sit and stare. I prefer good news and a designated rubber necker lane on the highway, so I can buzz by accidents, without being force to stare in slow motion.

The life science industries, which treat all forms of health issues, are grounded on casino science, and are run by bean counters looking to expand markets and jobs. Like any industry, if there are not enough customers, you need to create demand for extra good and services.This is easy to do with dice and cards science, since being less than rational, it allows you to manipulate emotions; fear. My favorite go-to is called "risk". This is where the bogeyman floats like a vapor and covers the entire land, so even if you never see the bogeyman, he sees you. This dice and cards model spooks people and allows you to sell more commercial time to expand the market.

The rational irony, that is not conscious, by the dice and cards math, is if the health care industries were doing their job; optimized, they should be working themselves out of a job. In other words, if more and more diseases become a thing of the past, and people get healthier, there should be less and less need for health care. The analogy is an auto manufacturer, making a product that they refine each year, so there are fewer and fewer defects. This means there is less service needed, as years go on, beyond routine maintenance like oil changes and new tires. The growth in the life science industries, reflect the opposite is happening, adding more dice and cards defects to expand the service industries. Dice and cards math makes this possible. When the bogeyman starts to float around, nobody is ever penalized for being too defensive. The side effects, created by fighting the bogeyman, are a bonus.

If we go back to triggers, triggers are part of the dice and cards marketing strategy. For example, when drugs are tested, so they can come to market, there is a thing called a placebo. The placebo is often a sugar pill with no objective medical value. This is used because the power of suggestion, allows some people to improve their condition with just positive thinking. The placebo is there as a way to objectify the drug's effectiveness, so it is not exaggerated via the neural black box in the math black box.

Since there is placebo effect connected to getting better, shouldn't there also be placebo disease? Placebo disease would cause symptoms to appear based on the power of suggestion; triggers. This makes sense, since those who can get better with just a sugar pill, may also be the same one's with a placebo disease, allowing mind over matter to reverse the course with the right trigger.

The placebo disease approach is most effective in growing the mental health industries; Transgender industries. All the goods and services come only if the patient's mind comes to a specific focus. The symptoms do not have to be physical, like a placebo disease, that gives a rash. This type of mental virus, can bounce around in the mind and imagination, where the power of suggestion originates, structuring a mental cascade. This will then require people to seek help from a medicine man or woman who can exorcise the placebo demons.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
I was just browsing my reader's group posts and ran across the question:

What are triggers?

The answers were not surprising, but by being grouped together, and all being equally simplistic, I wondered: Are we becoming habitual, as a society, in relating seriously concerning survivor's trauma into commonplace discomfort just so we can say "Me, too!"?

That was the gist of a dozen answers -- a topic that makes the reader uncomfortable. That so belittles the devastation felt by people who have true and very real flashback episodes, IMO.

I have been professionally diagnosed with having Accumulative PTSD for about a decade. I have anxiety from incidents that hit a bit too close to memories, but I would never call them "triggers" as they do not create real-time flashbacks as many vets and survivors of devastating violent acts have to deal with.

So opinons, please.

Let's assume for a moment that everything anyone ever wants to claim is a trigger, is actually a trigger...

That says nothing to the variance in severity and impact, and what the best approach would be to building resilience and dealing with that trigger.

Where there is actual trauma at the root of a response versus where there is merely discomfort, not based in any actual trauma, for example.

To me, thats the interesting part. How do we best help people who get triggered to move past the damage and distress of triggering incidents.
And in some cases, avoidance of triggers is counterproductive for people.

To be clear, I'm not suggesting there aren't real trauma survivors with real triggers they need to be able to avoid it at least have forewarning of in order to manage their stress and reactions.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
Let's assume for a moment that everything anyone ever wants to claim is a trigger, is actually a trigger...

That says nothing to the variance in severity and impact, and what the best approach would be to building resilience and dealing with that trigger.

Where there is actual trauma at the root of a response versus where there is merely discomfort, not based in any actual trauma, for example.

To me, thats the interesting part. How do we best help people who get triggered to move past the damage and distress of triggering incidents.
And in some cases, avoidance of triggers is counterproductive for people.

To be clear, I'm not suggesting there aren't real trauma survivors with real triggers they need to be able to avoid it at least have forewarning of in order to manage their stress and reactions.
The only help I've observed to be successful is support and encouragement to overcome, not to accept as irreparable. But like addicts, nothing will work until the afflicted wants to work towards a better life. There are no magic wands.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
I was just browsing my reader's group posts and ran across the question:

What are triggers?

The answers were not surprising, but by being grouped together, and all being equally simplistic, I wondered: Are we becoming habitual, as a society, in relating seriously concerning survivor's trauma into commonplace discomfort just so we can say "Me, too!"?

That was the gist of a dozen answers -- a topic that makes the reader uncomfortable. That so belittles the devastation felt by people who have true and very real flashback episodes, IMO.

I have been professionally diagnosed with having Accumulative PTSD for about a decade. I have anxiety from incidents that hit a bit too close to memories, but I would never call them "triggers" as they do not create real-time flashbacks as many vets and survivors of devastating violent acts have to deal with.

So opinons, please.
This can be traced to Liberalism, where everyone on team is a victim and being a victim now pays. DEI is about favoring all the victims so they can cut the line. Conservatism is more about self reliance, which had less dependence on the mass mind, and therefore more shelter from the formation triggers of being a victim. Being made into a victim can take away your drive and independence and make you feel like a victim. The effect is like having a mother who smothers you with love and her fears. This can feel safe, but like a drug, it can create a dependency, that can robs you of your own life; comfort versus freedom.

There is an old saying about following the money. The victim industry appears to be a way to grow government. Victims need more upkeep and this can be provided for by growing government, using increasing upkeep, as the justification for its own growth. The "war on poverty" has been going on for over 50 years, spent $10trillion, and has not gained any ground. It is a money pit war, more designed to justify a growing bureaucracy and welfare industrial complex. They get to define poverty to create new victims out of thin air. Not solving the problem, shows the victims of poverty, are pawns of the bureaucracy and complex. If the victims were of primary importance, there would fewer and fewer each year, and not sustainable government and industry growth using debt.

Liberalism is much more pro Big Government. Conservative prefers to shrink government, since being self sufficient; middle class, eliminates the justification needed to impose big government dependency. Self sufficient has built in victimization resistance.

For example, the transgender movement in public schools was an attempt created a new Federal run dependency group of victims that would justify more government bureaucracy, and its attached medical industrial complex; bribes, contributions and union jobs. The parents who wished to stay more self reliant, put sand into the gears. The bureaucracy never fully formed. But the victim propaganda triggers have stayed strong but cannot grow government the way it traditionally does.

The free market is not a monopoly, like government, and is subject to supply and demand, and therefore the current trend is more subject to watching the free market forces, which are better suited to the self sufficient. If you are an adult, and can afford this option, by your self sufficiency, this is your choice. But no new bureaucracy, brain washing and strong arming, to grow Government and the Unions, by defining a new generation of Liberal perpetual victims that the tax payer has to support along with the Liberal complex.

Sending abortion back to the states, harmed the growing centralized abortion bureaucracy, and the abortion industrial complex. This will reduce the justification of central government growth in that sector, that would have required an ever growing supply of new victims, who you can panic; triggers, if abortion gets too inconvenient.

I like the idea of sending all social service to the states, and decentralizing the Federal Government. In the Constitution, the role of the Federal Government is to provide for the common defense and to promote the general welfare. Provide is about resources. The Federal Government should still be the main "provider= tax dollar" for national defense; military, police, spies/investigative/legal, national defense, border security as well as the logistical, related production industries and economic connections for potential war efforts.

Promote the general welfare, does not mean Federal funding. To me it means to send that share of federal tax money, back to the states, minus say 10% so they can provide only very key services. The central governments jobs will be about promotion. This could involve watching all the 50 state experiments, and encouraging the States to become more efficient and effective based on these test proven results. This is not about growing central government, via expanding regulation and brain washers victim; add more compliance officer Rather it this smaller team will promote the general welfare by solving problems, while respecting State autonomy. This will go a long way to reversing the victim brain washing model of Big Brother Government and the Swamp that rips off the tax payers and victims.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
This can be traced to Liberalism, where everyone on team is a victim and being a victim now pays. DEI is about favoring all the victims so they can cut the line. Conservatism is more about self reliance, which had less dependence on the mass mind, and therefore more shelter from the formation triggers of being a victim. Being made into a victim can take away your drive and independence and make you feel like a victim. The effect is like having a mother who smothers you with love and her fears. This can feel safe, but like a drug, it can create a dependency, that can robs you of your own life; comfort versus freedom.

There is an old saying about following the money. The victim industry appears to be a way to grow government. Victims need more upkeep and this can be provided for by growing government, using increasing upkeep, as the justification for its own growth. The "war on poverty" has been going on for over 50 years, spent $10trillion, and has not gained any ground. It is a money pit war, more designed to justify a growing bureaucracy and welfare industrial complex. They get to define poverty to create new victims out of thin air. Not solving the problem, shows the victims of poverty, are pawns of the bureaucracy and complex. If the victims were of primary importance, there would fewer and fewer each year, and not sustainable government and industry growth using debt.

Liberalism is much more pro Big Government. Conservative prefers to shrink government, since being self sufficient; middle class, eliminates the justification needed to impose big government dependency. Self sufficient has built in victimization resistance.

For example, the transgender movement in public schools was an attempt created a new Federal run dependency group of victims that would justify more government bureaucracy, and its attached medical industrial complex; bribes, contributions and union jobs. The parents who wished to stay more self reliant, put sand into the gears. The bureaucracy never fully formed. But the victim propaganda triggers have stayed strong but cannot grow government the way it traditionally does.

The free market is not a monopoly, like government, and is subject to supply and demand, and therefore the current trend is more subject to watching the free market forces, which are better suited to the self sufficient. If you are an adult, and can afford this option, by your self sufficiency, this is your choice. But no new bureaucracy, brain washing and strong arming, to grow Government and the Unions, by defining a new generation of Liberal perpetual victims that the tax payer has to support along with the Liberal complex.

Sending abortion back to the states, harmed the growing centralized abortion bureaucracy, and the abortion industrial complex. This will reduce the justification of central government growth in that sector, that would have required an ever growing supply of new victims, who you can panic; triggers, if abortion gets too inconvenient.

I like the idea of sending all social service to the states, and decentralizing the Federal Government. In the Constitution, the role of the Federal Government is to provide for the common defense and to promote the general welfare. Provide is about resources. The Federal Government should still be the main "provider= tax dollar" for national defense; military, police, spies/investigative/legal, national defense, border security as well as the logistical, related production industries and economic connections for potential war efforts.

Promote the general welfare, does not mean Federal funding. To me it means to send that share of federal tax money, back to the states, minus say 10% so they can provide only very key services. The central governments jobs will be about promotion. This could involve watching all the 50 state experiments, and encouraging the States to become more efficient and effective based on these test proven results. This is not about growing central government, via expanding regulation and brain washers victim; add more compliance officer Rather it this smaller team will promote the general welfare by solving problems, while respecting State autonomy. This will go a long way to reversing the victim brain washing model of Big Brother Government and the Swamp that rips off the tax payers and victims.
My apologies, but I'm not going to read a long piece on political divides and accusations when the discussion has to do with various levels of PTSD and how our culture views them. I do appreciate your taking the time to express your thorough thought.
 
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