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Differentiate Between Father and Son

iris89

Active Member
Commentary on Two Sets of Parallel Scriptures that differentiate between the Father (YHWH) and his Son, the Son of God (YHWH), Jesus (Yeshua) Christ:



ONES DEALING WITH THE FATHER (YHWH):



Deuteronomy 33:27 The eternal God is thy dwelling-place, And underneath are the everlasting arms: And he thrust out the enemy from before thee, And said, Destroy.



Psalm 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, Or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, Thou art God.



ONES DEALING WITH THE SON, THE SON OF GOD, JESUS (YESHUA):



Revelation 1:17-18 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as one dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying, Fear not; I am the first and the last, 18 and the Living one; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive for evermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades.



Revelation 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. (American Standard Version; ASV)



We shall examine both sets and see the difference and the parallels with respect scriptures dealing strictly with the Father (YHWH), and those dealing strictly with the Son, the Son of God (YHWH), Jesus (Yeshua). Deuteronomy 33:27 is interesting in that it uses the phrase, "underneath are the everlasting arms," showing God (YHWH) always existed; with this highlighted at Psalms 46:11, "Jehovah of hosts is with us; The God of Jacob is our refuge." (ASV); which is tied to Psalms 90:1-2, "Lord, thou hast been our dwelling-place In all generations. (ASV) 2 Before the mountains were made, or the earth and the world was formed; from eternity and to eternity thou art God." (Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible - note in this Bible the scripture is at Psalms 89:2; DRCB). This scripture in the Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible clearly shows that God (YHWH) if from eternity; therefore, without a beginning; And this truth is further affirmed at Psalms 125:2 (Psalms 124:2 in Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible), "As the mountains are round about Jerusalem, So Jehovah is round about his people, From this time forth and forevermore." (ASV); And at Psalms 93:2 (Psalms 92:2 in Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible), "Thy throne is prepared from of old: thou art from everlasting." (ASV); And Isaiah 40:28, "Hast thou not known? Hast thou not heard? The everlasting God, Jehovah, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary; there is no searching of his understanding." (ASV); And Jeremiah 10:10, "But Jehovah is the true God; he is the living God, and an everlasting King: at his wrath the earth trembleth, and the nations are not able to abide his indignation." (ASV). We will later see that Almighty God (YHWH) gives his Son, Jesus (Yeshua), an assignment and the power to carry it out, and upon its completion he gives the kingdom he has made to his Father (YHWH), the superior one, and re-subjects himself to him as the Son of God is neither co-equal or co-eternal with his Father (YHWH). Now let's look at the two parallel scriptures dealing with the Son.



Revelation 1:17-18, previously quoted, refers to the Son of God (YHWH), Jesus (Yeshua), and is tied to Revelation 22:13, also, previously quoted. In reference to the Son of God (YHWH), the "I am the Alpha and the Omega," clearly does NOT refer to all of eternity as it does when used with respect to his Father (YHWH) at Revelation 1:8, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end," says the Lord God, 'who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty." (The Conracternity Edition of The New Testament; CETNT) as made clear at Revelations 1:4-5, "John to the seven churches that are in Asia; Grace to you and peace, from him who is and who was and who is to come; and from the seven Spirits that are before his throne; 5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loveth us, and loosed us from our sins by his blood; 6 and he made us to be a kingdom, to be priests unto his God and Father; to hem be the glory and the dominion for ever and ever. Amen." (ASV); herein, clearly showing that Jesus' (Yeshua's) God was his own Father (YHWH), "and he made us to be a kingdom, to be priests unto his God and Father," Once more showing his subjection to His Father (YHWH) as a superior one with whom Jesus (Yeshua) thou very powerful in his own right was NOT co-equal with.



Now let's look at his assignment, and his turnover of the kingdom at the end of his assignment to his Father, Almighty God (YHWH). We find the details at 1 Corinthians 15:22-28, "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all." (AV), testifies that God (YHWH) had given his Son, Jesus (Yeshua) over all except himself when the scripture says "it is manifest that he is excepted." Clearly showing they were distinct individuals and that the Father (YHWH) was the superior one; hence they were not CO-EQUAL.

Your Friend in Christ Iris89
 
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