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Jerry Falwell is dead

Mister_T

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
Booko said:
*wonders what chapter and verse that comes from*

Yes, I'm just being plain serious about that.
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I'd like to hear that one too. That's news to me.

I don't recall Heaven being about receiving material items. Love and God is the only treasure that is supposed to be up their.
 
Jaymes

Jaymes

The cake is a lie
Reverend Rick said:
Jaymes, I am trying to answer you questions. I just don't think you like my answers.
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You're right. I guess my standards are just too high... I like for people to make sense and actually address what I asked in my question when they answer me.
 
Booko

Booko

Deviled Hen
Mister_T said:
I don't recall Heaven being about receiving material items. Love and God is the only treasure that is supposed to be up their.
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Oh, I'm perfectly willing to take the jeweled crown thing metaphorically.

I'm just wondering where any particular person's name shows up in chapter and verse, is all.

As for how it generally applies, I expect Rick will explain that, since he said he would.
 
Reverend Rick

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
2 Timothy 4:5-8
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.

I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith

Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
 
Pah

Pah

Uber all member
From my inbox.

I, Bright-ness' Shadow, entitle this post as "From the perspective of Falwell's victims"

By MICHAEL PAUL WILLIAMS

TIMES-DISPATCH COLUMNIST

I hesitated when an editor asked if I planned to write about the Rev. Jerry Falwell.

To put it succinctly, I was not a fan. No Falwell column with my byline would go down easy.

Compassion and sensitivity suggested I avoid the topic, or at least delay it until the public was in a better mood to digest what I might serve up.

But newspapers have sometimes done readers a disservice in glossing over the transgressions of deceased public figures who, frankly, did not deserve the extent of our mercy. Our respect for the truth should trump respect for the dead.

Falwell's loved ones warrant our condolences. But a figure as cruelly polarizing as Falwell does not deserve a grace period.

Compassion was nowhere to be found when, in the volatile aftermath of Sept. 11, Falwell anointed himself the spokesman for a wrathful God.

"I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.'"

Fortunately, few people bought into Falwell's odious assessment of that horrific day, and he was forced to retreat from it.

His targets, in responding to Falwell's death, showed a restraint he seldom exhibited toward them.

"We express our condolences to all those who were close to the Rev. Jerry Falwell," Matt Foreman, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, said in a statement. "Unfortunately, we will always remember him as a founder and leader of America's anti-gay industry, someone who exacerbated the nation's appalling response to the onslaught of the AIDS epidemic, someone who demonized and vilified us for political gain and someone who used religion to divide rather than unite our nation."

People For the American Way President Ralph G. Neas called Falwell "an effective advocate for his vision of America, a vision with which we strongly disagreed."

Falwell -- who in a February sermon declared global warming a myth -- struck me as more politician than preacher. He pastored a megachurch and founded a university. But his most enduring legacy will be how he and his Moral Majority hijacked America's political process decades ago.

No GOP campaign of note was official without the kiss of Falwell's ring or the stamp of approval from Bob Jones University. John McCain, who in 2000 branded Falwell an agent of intolerance, spoke at Liberty University's 2006 commencement. Mitt Romney, a Mormon running for president, sought his Religious Right bona fides as commencement speaker at the Rev. Pat Robertson's Regent University this month.

If the outcome of this influence had been a nation with compassionate public policy, few would have complained. Instead, it unleashed a hatefully intolerant strain on the body politic.

Jerry Falwell, you helped this happen.

"He was clearly a strong and charismatic Virginian and that is part of his legacy," said Dyana Mason, executive director of Equality Virginia. "Unfortunately, another part of his legacy is he used religion to divide us and through his actions really helped alienate gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Virginians from their families and their faith. And that hurt a lot of Virginians.

"We look forward to working with another generation of faith leaders," Mason said.

We all should.
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Ciscokid

Ciscokid

Well-Known Member
Reverend Rick said:
Actually Reverend Falwell will receive jeweled crowns in heaven for his accomplishments.
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This is one of those things that drives me nuts about religion. When you're in friggen Paradise...what the devil are you going to do with a crown full of jewels??

We're told all the time by religious right to stop counting our treasures here on earth....only to find out we're supposed to look forward to them instead in the afterlife.

I'll never understand this stuff.
 
Ciscokid

Ciscokid

Well-Known Member
Reverend Rick said:
2 Timothy 4:5-8
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.

I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith

Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
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So this is a literal crown that will sit atop a spiritual head? Do you have to polish it occassionally?

These people wrote what made sense to them....if this verse was written today it'd probably be skull cap....the holy skull cap of righteousness.

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