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Prayer/God cures cancer?

Jistyr

Inquisitive Youngin'
I have heard of a number of people claim that God saved them from cancer, or that someone's prayers were answered and their loved one recovered from cancer.

However, for those who claim that he can cure cancer, why can he not cure those with other disorders? What of those with the Down Syndrome, AIDS, or amputated limbs? Why can they not be cured?

This thread is meant solely to debate whether God has ever cured someone of a disease at all, not just cancer, even though that is emphasized the most.

What are the thoughts of everyone else?
 

The Seeker

Once upon a time....
However, for those who claim that he can cure cancer, why can he not cure those with other disorders? What of those with the Down Syndrome, AIDS, or amputated limbs? Why can they not be cured?

I guess it's possible that God cured someone of a disease, though I find it very highly unlikely. My disbelief comes because I don't know of anyone that has been cured of a disease that science is currently unable to cure (AIDS, Alzheimers, DS, Lou Gehrig's disease, etc).
 

Booko

Deviled Hen
I guess it's possible that God cured someone of a disease, though I find it very highly unlikely. My disbelief comes because I don't know of anyone that has been cured of a disease that science is currently unable to cure (AIDS, Alzheimers, DS, Lou Gehrig's disease, etc).

I know of people who have been cured of diseases the allopathic medical profession has declared "incurable" but I think that's rather not the point.

How would anyone quantitatively measure the effect of prayer on one individual with a disease, anyway? There are far too many other factors.

Even looked at in larger groups, there would be factors that have to be accounted for (access to healthcare, emotional well-being, family and community support, etc.)
 

Harvster

Member
I've heard of people who have had limbs grow back through prayer. Likewise deaf people (from birth) able to hear again, blind see etc.

I think it comes down to what The Seeker said, until you have seen it you can't believe it.
 

Jaymes

The cake is a lie
I've heard of people who have had limbs grow back through prayer. Likewise deaf people (from birth) able to hear again, blind see etc.

I think it comes down to what The Seeker said, until you have seen it you can't believe it.
I'm sure science would love to hear of them, too, since to my knowledge that's never happened. Unless you're counting advances in technology... artificial limbs, cochlear implants, etc.
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
I have heard of a number of people claim that God saved them from cancer, or that someone's prayers were answered and their loved one recovered from cancer.

However, for those who claim that he can cure cancer, why can he not cure those with other disorders? What of those with the Down Syndrome, AIDS, or amputated limbs? Why can they not be cured?

This thread is meant solely to debate whether God has ever cured someone of a disease at all, not just cancer, even though that is emphasized the most.

What are the thoughts of everyone else?
I'm personally more interested in those that pray for a cure for their cancer and don't get it.
 

cardero

Citizen Mod
I have heard of a number of people claim that God saved them from cancer, or that someone's prayers were answered and their loved one recovered from cancer.

However, for those who claim that he can cure cancer, why can he not cure those with other disorders? What of those with the Down Syndrome, AIDS, or amputated limbs? Why can they not be cured?

This thread is meant solely to debate whether God has ever cured someone of a disease at all, not just cancer, even though that is emphasized the most.

What are the thoughts of everyone else?
If the person with the incurable disease does not recover, this does not mean prayers were ignored or unheeded. It just means it was within the PURPOSE of this BEing (or person) to pass on at this time.

This is when people seem to lose their faith in ME. And this is why I do not buy into faith. I received the prayer and have sent it to the proper channels. But if it is within the will of the BEing that these prayers go unfulfilled, it is only because it is not within the PURPOSE for this BEing to receive the effects of that particular prayer. It is not MY will that must BE done but the will and the PURPOSE of the individual BEing who has chosen a PURPOSE before incarnating into a physical existence that must BE done.

HELLO IT'S ME: An Interview With GOD
Chapter: The Purpose Of Prayer
Pg: 382,383
 

Harvster

Member
I'm sure science would love to hear of them, too, since to my knowledge that's never happened. Unless you're counting advances in technology... artificial limbs, cochlear implants, etc.

And therein lies the problem, science is based on fact and therefore requires the actual people to appear to prove what happened to be correct. Science will not count eyewitnesses as actual evidence no matter what.

When you are in a church service and watch the limb literally grow back right in front of you or hear the screams as a deef person as he holds his ears because the noise is to much for them, and then go and tell someone only to get the response "I don't believe you", why then do you think people have never heard of such things.

I'm sure the people that get healed are not going to come out and say "looked what happended", as they know that first, scientists will investigate then come up with a theory of why it happened excluding God. Then along with this comes the media etc.

There are hundreds of people that have gone to doctors had further tests only to show there is no trace of something that was there before. I know of people who have done this and they have brought back the medical report stating "miricle" or "unexplainable" in writing.
 

Jaymes

The cake is a lie
And therein lies the problem, science is based on fact and therefore requires the actual people to appear to prove what happened to be correct. Science will not count eyewitnesses as actual evidence no matter what.

When you are in a church service and watch the limb literally grow back right in front of you or hear the screams as a deef person as he holds his ears because the noise is to much for them, and then go and tell someone only to get the response "I don't believe you", why then do you think people have never heard of such things.

I'm sure the people that get healed are not going to come out and say "looked what happended", as they know that first, scientists will investigate then come up with a theory of why it happened excluding God. Then along with this comes the media etc.

There are hundreds of people that have gone to doctors had further tests only to show there is no trace of something that was there before. I know of people who have done this and they have brought back the medical report stating "miricle" or "unexplainable" in writing.
You know, simple medical records would suffice to show this person used to not have a limb or was deaf from birth and has magically regrown a limb/gained the ability to hear. It's not a terribly hard thing to produce if it actually happened.
 

Harvster

Member
You know, simple medical records would suffice to show this person used to not have a limb or was deaf from birth and has magically regrown a limb/gained the ability to hear. It's not a terribly hard thing to produce if it actually happened.

True, but that just brings you back to the point I made earlier.
I'm sure the people that get healed are not going to come out and say "looked what happended", as they know that first, scientists will investigate then come up with a theory of why it happened excluding God. Then along with this comes the media etc.

Besides that arn't medical records under confidentuality laws?
 

Panda

42?
Premium Member
If someone gives you permission maybe.
And i thought doctors had access to them all?

The question is no one has ever actually proved any of these claims. How do you know its not just a show? If there any proof that the person was deaf? Or are they just saying that?
 

The Seeker

Once upon a time....
I'm personally more interested in those that pray for a cure for their cancer and don't get it.

Exactly. There are billions of people who have been afflicted with a disease and no doubt prayed for a cure, but their prayers went unanswered.
 

Jaymes

The cake is a lie
True, but that just brings you back to the point I made earlier.


Besides that arn't medical records under confidentuality laws?
Yeah. Someone's doctor couldn't come out and say that John Doe has magically gained the ability to see after being blind since birth. However, if this actually happened, it wouldn't just stay quiet. Even if the doctors didn't say anything. People that knew John Doe would call the press. "Holy crap, John Doe can see! He was blind since birth! Magic!"

And yet I've heard of none of this.
 

Mike182

Flaming Queer
I have heard of a number of people claim that God saved them from cancer, or that someone's prayers were answered and their loved one recovered from cancer.

However, for those who claim that he can cure cancer, why can he not cure those with other disorders? What of those with the Down Syndrome, AIDS, or amputated limbs? Why can they not be cured?

This thread is meant solely to debate whether God has ever cured someone of a disease at all, not just cancer, even though that is emphasized the most.

What are the thoughts of everyone else?

when i was a Christian i attended an evangelical church, and i often heard claims that members of the church had been praying with people who have one leg shorter than the other, causing them great back pains... and that while praying, the person's leg had grown to the correct length, and that person's back pains ceased.

i never saw anything like this, i never heard the testimony of a person who had had this happen to them, and before joining the church i had never heard anything like this.

i honestly don't know if these events actually happened, let alone if God was involved in them or not.
 

Booko

Deviled Hen
i never saw anything like this, i never heard the testimony of a person who had had this happen to them, and before joining the church i had never heard anything like this.

i honestly don't know if these events actually happened, let alone if God was involved in them or not.

Honestly, they could've just resorted to healing the by laying on of hands and seen a chiropractor. :rolleyes:
 
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