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Am I the only Libertarian on this forum?

Mercy Not Sacrifice

Well-Known Member
I was born a die-hard Conservative. My parents were conservatives. My Aunt and Uncle (on my mother's side ) were very "left of centre" - so much so that my Aunt refused to communicate with her own sister for ten or so years.........

As I have matured, I have found myself becomiming more and more Liberal. The trouble is, what we all need to understand is that most forms of government are ideally "ideal" - introduce the Human race to put the politics into practice, and you get a mess.

No offense to libertarians and conservatives...but is it just me, or is this a theme common to many people?
 

Mercy Not Sacrifice

Well-Known Member
Most people get more moderate and confomist as they grow up.

Sometimes. AFAIK, young people tend to become more liberal as they leave home and settle reality for themselves and not based on what they were told to believe. Years later, once they start a family and have children, they swing back toward the Right.
 

Aqualung

Tasty
Sometimes. AFAIK, young people tend to become more liberal as they leave home and settle reality for themselves and not based on what they were told to believe. Years later, once they start a family and have children, they swing back toward the Right.

I think people just tend to get more radical, in either direction, as they leave home, and become more moderate when they have their own family. For example, I was a pretty moderate conservative. Now I'm a radical libertarian. My mom was a communist as a teenager and college student, but now she's so moderate I don't know if she's democrat or republican. Obviously, this is anecdotal, but I think in general it holds more true than an idea that people get more radical only in one direction as they move out.
 

Zephyr

Moved on
Moderate capitalist d00d.
Meh. Anti-immigration, pro-environment libertarian really. I'm a libertarian outside of immigration issues, and the only real restrictions I would place on a business (outside of preventing slavery and such) would be to make sure they don't screw up the environment too much. That stuff is kind of important.
 

Pariah

Let go
Economic Left/Right: -3.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.08

The political compass offered on Page 1 gave me these numbers.

I would have to agree with the idea that radicalism breeds away from home; the safety of routine and the grounded mindset needed for a family develops naturally.
 

anders

Well-Known Member
"Libertarian" is an unknown label in Sweden. Excluding the immigrant haters, I vote as far to the right as possible.

I tried to think of what I would have thought in the US, because for example a statement like "Our civil liberties are being excessively curbed in the name of counter-terrorism" just isn't applicable in my country.


My score: Economic Left/Right: -3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69

Sufficiently close to the Dalai Lama, not too far from the Mahatma. It fits.
 

lombas

Society of Brethren
"Libertarian" is an unknown label in Sweden. Excluding the immigrant haters, I vote as far to the right as possible.

I tried to think of what I would have thought in the US, because for example a statement like "Our civil liberties are being excessively curbed in the name of counter-terrorism" just isn't applicable in my country.


My score: Economic Left/Right: -3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69

Sufficiently close to the Dalai Lama, not too far from the Mahatma. It fits.

Sweden has Johan Norberg and Per Bylund. Which is enough to make me jealous, even if we have Van Dun.
 

MaddLlama

Obstructor of justice
I am a libertarian also.

But, I've come to realize that in many ways the Libertarians are the new Republicans. Or, at least it's where the non-neo-con Republicans go when they can't stomach the religious right anymore.
 

lombas

Society of Brethren
"Why I am not a conservative" by Hayek, anyone?

Also, many libertarians' views are twofold: a personal and one for society (which is libertarianism, of course).

The funniest combinations exist.
 
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