Man in a dress? Must be a shooter!

Panda said:

I just thought people odd to be more tolerant and less afraid of people who are different (zenaphobia is it? not sure)
If anything i would have thought a cross dresser less likely to attack someone, as generally will have a female brain and females are less violent than men.

One more thing i heard rumour Brian Moloko from Placebo was a cross dresser i knows he is bi but cant find anywhere confirm or deny what i heard?

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You are brilliant. :rainbow1:

Rociel-sama is hot.

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I normally only like girls, but I find myself attracted to him. Does this make me bisexual.

Darkness said:

I normally only like girls, but I find myself attracted to him. Does this make me bisexual.

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Maybe bi-curious. Ask about in the Rainbow Room and see what they say...lol.

Ðanisty said:

Maybe bi-curious. Ask about in the Rainbow Room and see what they say...lol.

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Bi-curious sounds as good a term as any. I only feel an attraction to long haired men, though.

Will joining the Rainbow Room change my Username colour? I like it Orange.

I hope this dude is not mentally and emotionally bankrupt as you act like he should be.

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As I said, what if the cross dressing guy was actually a very masculine looking woman?

Had she called the police simply because she disliked men who dressed as women, you all would have a point. It simply could have been the case that she never has seen that before. It was strange to her and it raised her hackles a bit.

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It is true that she might have been concerned. A decade later, people are still afraid of black trench coats. A few years later, people are still scared of viels and hijabs (ok, maybe the entire muslim community as a whole). As annoying and irritating as it is, those two pieces of wardrobe popped someones bubble, and left them afraid. But why would you be scared of someone who is in drag? It's not like a guy wearing a dress opened fire on public streets, shoot up a school, flew an airplane into a tower, or blew up a public building that was occupied.
IMO, this woman saying she was concerned for the kids was a bull**** excuse to harass someone. Thier is no reason to fear someone in drag (or a trench coat, mask, hijab, or any other clothing), but she say someone from a group of people she doesn't like, and decided to stir up trouble. Or maybe it amounts to being afraid of what you don't understand? Still, what reason would thier be to call the cops because you see someone dressed abit odd?

Just because the woman over-reacted (IMO) the police didn't have too.

I get the impression that this whole argument side-stepped the central issue - the existence of transgendered people.

If you don't have a concept of transgendered, then what you see is a man wearing women's clothing. And that may indeed seem suspicious. Perhaps the person was trying to disguise himself.

If otoh, you see the person as transgendered, then the calling of the police and the police responding is yet another example of bias against the transgendered. Society is saying that unless you conform to prescribed gender roles, we will automatically assume that you are morally suspicious.

Even tho Jaymes started off the thread by framing the discussion around the rights of transgendered, I don't think that's the way in which many people responded. Instead the discussion has been around whether it's suspicious for men to wear women's clothing.

lilithu said:

I get the impression that this whole argument side-stepped the central issue - the existence of transgendered people.

If you don't have a concept of transgendered, then what you see is a man wearing women's clothing. And that may indeed seem suspicious. Perhaps the person was trying to disguise himself.

If otoh, you see the person as transgendered, then the calling of the police and the police responding is yet another example of bias against the transgendered. Society is saying that unless you conform to prescribed gender roles, we will automatically assume that you are morally suspicious.

Even tho Jaymes started off the thread by framing the discussion around the rights of transgendered, I don't think that's the way in which many people responded. Instead the discussion has been around whether it's suspicious for men to wear women's clothing.

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I agree 100%. Men who identify themselves as women have a right to wear dresses and heels or whatever. The cops should not have been called because a transgendered person was walking down the street.

I honestly don't think the woman called because she wanted to harrass a transgendered person. I just felt that people were coming down on her pretty hard when I don't think it was bigotry.

Ciscokid said:

I agree 100%. Men who identify themselves as women have a right to wear dresses and heels or whatever. The cops should not have been called because a transgendered person was walking down the street.

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All men have a right to wear dresses and heels or whatever regardless of whether or not they see themselves as women.

Ðanisty;803371 said:

All men have a right to wear dresses and heels or whatever regardless of whether or not they see themselves as women.

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Yeah I thought about rewording that statement. I phrased it that way only because more than likely the only men that would normally dress that way are those that feel aligned to the female gender. If you wanna wear a dress go for it.

Ciscokid said:

Yeah I thought about rewording that statement. I phrased it that way only because more than likely the only men that would normally dress that way are those that feel aligned to the female gender. If you wanna wear a dress go for it.

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Heh, hey there are some pretty interesting drunken parties around here. Don't be too suprised to see some drunk college kid in a dress.

But yeah, I agree completely. I might think it's weird, but it's not my job to say what people can and can't wear.