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Colossians 1:15-16?

101G

Well-Known Member
Galatians 4:4

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
First thanks for the reply, second, that's not a creation. babies are "MADE" every day, so please try again.

now, let 101G make himself clear. Yeshua/Jesus is neither CREATED nor MADE, NOT THE SPIRIT. understand, the BODY that Yeshua/Jesus came in was "MADE" in the woman womb, but not Yeshua/Jesus who is Spirit. I hope you understand that. and also, how can the Spirit, Yeshua/Jesus, be made or created, when he's ETERNAL? supportive scripture, 1 Timothy 6:14 "That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:"1 Timothy 6:15 "Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;"1 Timothy 6:16 "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."

"Only" means, and no one or nothing more besides; solely or exclusively".
and "immortality", or immortal, means, living forever; never dying or decaying.
so, if he's the ONLY ONE who have immortality, notice the ONLY one who has it, the question remains, how can he be CREATED?

101G.
Your Interpretation is the Universal Roman Catholic Church's Interpretation. You don't understand Paul the Apostle's writings.
well then, enlighten 101G, please.

101G.
 

101G

Well-Known Member
And Jesus's body was indeed made

But Jesus himself has always existed
100% correct. thank you.

yes, many do not understand the difference between the Son of God and the Son of Man.

the Son of God is Flesh, bone, and Blood, from below, Earthly. but the Son of Man is Spirit, from above, heavenly.

Eddi, on Point.

101G.
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
Yes

And Jesus's body was indeed made

But Jesus himself has always existed
Genesis 1:26

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.


The 7.8 Billion people on the Planet is Yeshua's/Jesus's Created/Made Earthly Body.
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
First thanks for the reply, second, that's not a creation. babies are "MADE" every day, so please try again.

now, let 101G make himself clear. Yeshua/Jesus is neither CREATED nor MADE, NOT THE SPIRIT. understand, the BODY that Yeshua/Jesus came in was "MADE" in the woman womb, but not Yeshua/Jesus who is Spirit. I hope you understand that. and also, how can the Spirit, Yeshua/Jesus, be made or created, when he's ETERNAL? supportive scripture, 1 Timothy 6:14 "That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:"1 Timothy 6:15 "Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;"1 Timothy 6:16 "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."

"Only" means, and no one or nothing more besides; solely or exclusively".
and "immortality", or immortal, means, living forever; never dying or decaying.
so, if he's the ONLY ONE who have immortality, notice the ONLY one who has it, the question remains, how can he be CREATED?

101G.
Romans 8:3

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:


Yeshua/Jesus is Sinful Flesh before he becomes Spirit.




well then, enlighten 101G, please.

101G.
Matthew 28:18

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.



Elohim/God in the Holy Scriptures/Bible teaches Esoteric and Exoteric Knowledge. Exoteric Knowledge is for Elohim's/God's Earthly Church embodied by the Universal Roman Catholic Church. Elohim/God has given the Universal Roman Catholic Church Earthly Dominion.
 

101G

Well-Known Member
Romans 8:3

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
thanks for the reply, but did you see the revelation? "God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh" so the Son is before his flesh.
Yeshua/Jesus is Sinful Flesh before he becomes Spirit.
sinful flesh? post scripture to that statement. and please don't use Romans 8:3 above... for it states, "in LIKENESS, LIKENESS, and not that his flesh was sinful. if so, God would not have a "PERFECT" sacrifice, without spot or wrinkle. try again.
Matthew 28:18

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.



Elohim/God in the Holy Scriptures/Bible teaches Esoteric and Exoteric Knowledge. Exoteric Knowledge is for Elohim's/God's Earthly Church embodied by the Universal Roman Catholic Church. Elohim/God has given the Universal Roman Catholic Church Earthly Dominion.
Hog-wash, better known as nonsense.

another ERROR on your part. God do not have any HIDDEN Knowledge that only a few select know. scripture, Romans 1:13 "Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles."

"I would not have you ignorant", the apostle used this phrase OVER, and OVER. so apparently, the only ones who are IGNORANT is those who trust in men and not God. God is the ONLY TEACHER. John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

how many things? ALL THINGS, so this Esoteric and Exoteric Knowledge.... made up by man is a LIE. for the bible says God will teach us "ALL THINGS", . the bible REPROVE your Universal Roman Catholic Church doctrine here, as a LIE.

Let the Lord Jesus give you some advice,
Romans 12:1 "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service." Romans 12:2 "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." Romans 12:3 "For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith." Romans 12:4 "For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office:" Romans 12:5 "So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another." Romans 12:6 "Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;" Romans 12:7 "Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching;" Romans 12:8 "Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness." Romans 12:9 "Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good." Romans 12:10 "Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;" Romans 12:11 "Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;" Romans 12:12 "Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;" Romans 12:13 "Distributing to the necessity of saints; given to hospitality." Romans 12:14 "Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not." Romans 12:15 "Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep." Romans 12:16 "Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits." Romans 12:17 "Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men." Romans 12:18 "If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men." Romans 12:19 "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord." Romans 12:20 "Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head." Romans 12:21 "Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good."

you might want to read that chapter 12 again.

101G.
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
thanks for the reply, but did you see the revelation? "God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh" so the Son is before his flesh.

sinful flesh? post scripture to that statement. and please don't use Romans 8:3 above... for it states, "in LIKENESS, LIKENESS, and not that his flesh was sinful. if so, God would not have a "PERFECT" sacrifice, without spot or wrinkle. try again.
Romans 5:14

14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.



Flesh is Sin! The Sin Flesh is Inherited from Adam. Yeshua's/Jesus's Flesh is Sin given that Flesh is Sin.



Hog-wash, better known as nonsense.

another ERROR on your part. God do not have any HIDDEN Knowledge that only a few select know. scripture, Romans 1:13 "Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles."

"I would not have you ignorant", the apostle used this phrase OVER, and OVER. so apparently, the only ones who are IGNORANT is those who trust in men and not God. God is the ONLY TEACHER. John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

how many things? ALL THINGS, so this Esoteric and Exoteric Knowledge.... made up by man is a LIE. for the bible says God will teach us "ALL THINGS", . the bible REPROVE your Universal Roman Catholic Church doctrine here, as a LIE.

Let the Lord Jesus give you some advice,
Romans 12:1 "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service." Romans 12:2 "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." Romans 12:3 "For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith." Romans 12:4 "For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office:" Romans 12:5 "So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another." Romans 12:6 "Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;" Romans 12:7 "Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching;" Romans 12:8 "Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness." Romans 12:9 "Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good." Romans 12:10 "Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;" Romans 12:11 "Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;" Romans 12:12 "Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;" Romans 12:13 "Distributing to the necessity of saints; given to hospitality." Romans 12:14 "Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not." Romans 12:15 "Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep." Romans 12:16 "Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits." Romans 12:17 "Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men." Romans 12:18 "If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men." Romans 12:19 "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord." Romans 12:20 "Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head." Romans 12:21 "Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good."

you might want to read that chapter 12 again.

101G.
You, @101G, are a Member of the Universal Roman Catholic Church that Elohim/God has given Earthly Dominion.


I Am Christian Gnostic Viewed an Heretic and subject of an ongoing Inquisition by the Universal Roman Catholic Church.


Gnosticism

Gnosticism (from Ancient Greek: γνωστικός, romanized: gnōstikós, Koine Greek: [ɣnostiˈkos], 'having knowledge') is a collection of religious ideas and systems which coalesced in the late 1st century AD among Jewish and early Christian sects.[1] These various groups emphasized personal spiritual knowledge (gnosis) above the orthodox teachings, traditions, and authority of religious institutions.

Gnosticism - Wikipedia
 
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Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
that did not answer the QUESTION, try again.

101G/
Matthew 28:18

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.



It does Answer the Question if you can See. Elohim/God has Limited Earthly Christians in what they can See.


Yeshua/Jesus Would Not be an Example for Christians to Follow given that, as you assert, he has Sinless Flesh. For example, he Would Not be able to show Repentance. Elohim/God has provided Perfect Example in Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ who Inherited Sinful Flesh and Became Sinless and Perfect.


On the other hand, the Earthly Yeshua/Jesus, is the Most Powerful and Greatest of the Sinners and has Dominion over the Earth: Homosexuality and Homophobia


London Has Fallen Movie (2016).. 3/8 Terrorist Attack Predicted.. IN LONDON ENGLAND
 
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