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God's Creation, and Some Misconceptions

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Rome from zero life...Nero man blamed as cursed humanity as attack of Rome by changing immaculate laws zero. No hero existed said sick minds.

As man is his own hero only by listening to conscious advice. Acting accordingly by his owned good will.

Around 800 years of the fall witnessing humans bad mind behaviours. They knew 1000 event would be inherited lost consciousness. They knew seen the effects.

As dark ages prove the mind of humanity memory behaviours was removed. In heavy metal fallout that spread from cold continents of ice saviour into all lands.

Why they wrote evidence. They knew.

Yet lost minds meant mis interpretation of readings also.

Father hence said. When men used grapes in clay urns to form battery power for first machinery.

Later men who gained wine from grapes taught lies. Old memory changes interferes.

Proven mind was lost.

As men brewed beer. Any conviction of converting natural products deemed evil spirits.

Reason from being attacked to memory notification of all man's pre scientific evils.

Why herbal medicine all we owned as medical was forbidden women murdered doing witchcraft. Weren't.

So water becomes wine by grapes. Natural wine.

Grapes in the past was the life power for clay pot batteries. Acidity. Misinterpreted.

Proven human memory gets eradicated when DNA gets hurt and removed from expression.

As science says the first two humans by tribal community all owned the same DNA first. Healthy life.

Removed from conscious parents we've been mind lost ever since.

Giving warnings by human self developed healing to be ridiculed and ignored.

As science is only wrong. As natural law owns no machine.

And as the sun in law owns mass conversion as law first it's why sun theists were jailed.
 

101G

Well-Known Member
You "don't know" either. You prove that every time that you run away. You are in fact in deeper darkness than I am because I know that some of the things you believe in are wrong.
The topic is about CREATION, and some misconceptions.
if you want to just talk, that's what facebook and twitter are for.... carnal conversation. the bible is discussed here.

so, if you have something concerning the scriptures, then post it for discussion, else FB or TW for u.

thanks in advance.
101G.
 

101G

Well-Known Member
The bible isn't a science book or a history book for that matter. It's a collection of many different books and letters, written over several thousand years, by many different authors, in several different languages. I just look at what the story is telling me. In the case of the creation story, in my opinion, the creation story is telling me that God created everything.
first thanks for the reply, yes, God CREATED EVERYTHING, but a misconception is that he went through someone. which the bible clearly say no, for he was "ALONE" and "BY HIMSELF". meaning no second person, or a third person exist.

and there are many other misconceptions, which need to be looked at.

101G
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The topic is about CREATION, and some misconceptions.
if you want to just talk, that's what facebook and twitter are for.... carnal conversation. the bible is discussed here.

so, if you have something concerning the scriptures, then post it for discussion, else FB or TW for u.

thanks in advance.
101G.
Why even think that there is a creation in the first place? The universe does not appear to need a God.

By the way, you ran away from the discussion. Which means that in doing so you supported my claim. You are more lost than I am.

Would you like some help?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
first thanks for the reply, yes, God CREATED EVERYTHING, but a misconception is that he went through someone. which the bible clearly say no, for he was "ALONE" and "BY HIMSELF". meaning no second person, or a third person exist.

and there are many other misconceptions, which need to be looked at.

101G
How would you prove that? It appears that all you have is a book of myths. How does that help you?
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Man said his machine was a God. Given to him by stars sun wisdom.

As a sun only consumed no man knew a sun.

Yet laws star mass higher metals came from a sun. Why earth has metals that cooled. As a sun used metal mass as a fuel yet remains a sun.

So men said the sun in I fi ite laws are just gases. Why he said it.

Gases don't become a cold base solid as its end it blows up. As cold gases amass in extremities and if made alight creates a huge explosion.

It's why he said a sun never cooled into a planet. He thought about it.

I believe the sun ends as an explosion.

Which would leave a space hole where mass consumed itself.

So man's mechanic God was cold outside of space time laws being alight. He transcended his God his idol put it by building as all types not metal with metal.

My highest science God a mechanical machine.

Earth bases.

So where's its life or fuel?

Man says I'll just convert some more mass. Which literally says I tried to then convert my machines mass body into a energy resource too.

Machine begins to heat releasing it's held mass energy from within. Where he said it came from twice.

Is exactly where he said electricity came from. Earths ground mass.

As one human is biology does not own a mass body and isn't electricity as a mass term.

Why he was categorically told no human is God we aren't energy as energy only formed in mass.

Pretty basic you already knew.

Three times you denied your own human advice said men of holy life authority.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Men say god is held bodies.

O the hole holding mass.

Mass it's core in empty space.

God is held by hands of time.

As mass was cooling alight as light yet not light.

How do you explain alight but not light?

God.
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I read the result, and have no opinion, because discoveries are made every day. some positive, and some....... outright, inconclusive.
Do you know the meaning of the word "inconclusive"?
You appear to be using it to mean, "in disagreement with 101G"
But science has provided conclusive evidence that the Bible is not true when read literally.

101G assume nothing. everyday.... so to speak, Science is making discoveries that prove the Bible is TRUE.

as I said before, because the bible states, 1 Timothy 6:20 "O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:"

101G.
Science is true if it follows the scientific method, and false if it does not. Agreement or disagreement with the Bible is irrelevant to whether or not science is true.

In my opinion.
 

101G

Well-Known Member
Do you know the meaning of the word "inconclusive"?
You appear to be using it to mean, "in disagreement with 101G"
But science has provided conclusive evidence that the Bible is not true when read literally.


Science is true if it follows the scientific method, and false if it does not. Agreement or disagreement with the Bible is irrelevant to whether or not science is true.

In my opinion.
GINOLJC, to all.
as I said to another poster, carnal conversations are useless. now if you cannot apply science to a scripture that is in discussion, then bow out, as said this what facebook and twitter are for..... carnal conversations.

now, the next time a scripture is presented with a scientific claim in it, then chime in with your scientific assessment, ok. because personal opinions or scientific one do not move me at all.

so until then........

101G.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
GINOLJC, to all.
as I said to another poster, carnal conversations are useless. now if you cannot apply science to a scripture that is in discussion, then bow out, as said this what facebook and twitter are for..... carnal conversations.

now, the next time a scripture is presented with a scientific claim in it, then chime in with your scientific assessment, ok. because personal opinions or scientific one do not move me at all.

so until then........

101G.
I can apply science to scripture to show that it is false if you like.

Remember, you do not get to assume that scripture is true in this part of the forum.
 

joelr

Well-Known Member
just ask him if he did or not......as I said, her do not LIE.


Ok. I did. Silence. This is in line with imaginary beings.





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GINOLJC, to all.
your first ERROR of the DAY. who is a Jew? scripture, Romans 2:28 "For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:" Romans 2:29 "But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God."

And there are not that many





j
now let's see those dependents as numbered of the stars in heaven.... Revelation 7:9 "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;"




There are not that many Jews. Christains are 1/3 of all religious believers. Prophecy failed.



this is why there are IGNORANT MEN in the world today. to certify God Holy Word. "a great multitude, which no man could number", just as the STARS man cannot number, but God can.

Yes we have a good idea of the number of stars in the universe.

j
your second ERROR of the Day, Genesis 46:3 "And he said, I am God, the God of thy father: fear not to go down into Egypt; for I will there make of thee a great nation:" (now, who is Jacob? a GREAT NATION). Genesis 46:4 "I will go down with thee into Egypt; and I will also surely bring thee up again: and Joseph shall put his hand upon thine eyes." (did he not bring Jacob/a Great Nation out of Egypt, and also his bones safely? LISTEN) Genesis 47:28 "And Jacob lived in the land of Egypt seventeen years: so the whole age of Jacob was an hundred forty and seven years." Genesis 47:29 "And the time drew nigh that Israel must die: and he called his son Joseph, and said unto him, If now I have found grace in thy sight, put, I pray thee, thy hand under my thigh, and deal kindly and truly with me; bury me not, I pray thee, in Egypt:" Genesis 47:30 "But I will lie with my fathers, and thou shalt carry me out of Egypt, and bury me in their buryingplace. And he said, I will do as thou hast said." Genesis 47:31 "And he said, Swear unto me. And he sware unto him. And Israel bowed himself upon the bed's head."

Nope, also-
  1. The river of Egypt (identified as the Nile in RSV) shall dry up. This has never occurred. 19:5
  2. "The land of Judah shall be a terror unto Egypt." Judah never invaded Egypt and was never a military threat to Egypt. 19:17
  3. This verse predicts that there shall be five cities in Egypt that speak the Canaanite language. But that language was never spoken in Egypt, and it is extinct now. 19:18
  4. These verses predict that the Egyptians will worship the Lord (Yahweh) with sacrifices and offerings. But Judaism has never been an important religion in Egypt. 19:18-21
  5. These verses predict that there will be an alliance between Egypt, Israel, and Assyria. But there has never been any such alliance, and it's unlikely that it ever will since Assyria no longer exists. 19:23-24

j
did God promise him to bring him out ALIVE ... NATURALLTY? if so post that Scripture. now listen to God, "I will also surely bring thee up again" did not the NATION of Jacob come out of Egypt? and was not his bone was brought out also? yes, then he came out of EGYPT... "ALSO" as Genesis 46:4 stated. this is where again IGNORANT men just run with a half truth and make it into a whole LIE. did you not know that Jacob is the Nation Israel? ..... see what IGNORANT men say and do without KNOWLEDGE? .. THEY LIE

101G.
That's a stretch. Doesn't work. You haven't done the Baden contradictions either?



Contradictions in the pentateuchal narrative come in a variety of forms, from the smallest of details to the most important of historical claims. On the minor end are ostensibly simple disagreements about the names of people and places. Is Moses’s father-in-law named Reuel (Exod 2:18) or Jethro (Exod 3:1)? Is the mountain in the wilderness where Yahweh appeared to the people called Sinai (Exod 19:11) or Horeb (Exod 3:1; Deut 1:6)? Of somewhat more significance are disagreements about where, when, and even why an event took place. In Numbers 20:23–29, Aaron dies on Mount Hor; according to Deuteronomy 10:6, however, he dies in Moserah. In Numbers 3–4, after Moses has descended from the mountain and is receiving the laws, the Levites are assigned their cultic re- sponsibilities; but according to Deuteronomy 10:8, the Levites were set apart at a site in the wilderness called Jotbath.10 In Numbers 20:2–13, Moses is forbidden from crossing the Jordan because of his actions at the waters of Meribah, when
he brought forth water from the rock; but then according to his own words in Deuteronomy 1:37–38, Moses was prohibited from entering the promised land not because of anything he did, but because of the sins of the people in the epi- sode of the spies. Major contradictions, with important historiographical and theological ramifications, are also present in the text. The premier example of these is the creation story in Genesis 1 and 2: in what order was the world cre- ated? was it originally watery or dry? were male and female created together, or was woman made from man’s rib? is man the culmination of creation, or the beginning? Other examples are equally problematic. For the cult: was the Tent of Meeting in the center of the Israelite camp (Num 2–3) and did Yahweh dwell there constantly (Exod 40:34–38), or was it situated well outside the camp (Exod 33:7), and does Yahweh descend to it only to speak with Moses (Exod 33:8–11)? For prophecy: could there be other prophets like Moses after his death (Deut 18:15), or not (Deut 34:10–12)? These contradictions, from minor to major, are difficult, and frequently impossible, to reconcile.


There are truly problematic doublets, however. The city of Luz is renamed Bethel by Jacob in Genesis 28:19, as he is on his way from his father’s house to stay with his uncle Laban. The city of Luz is again renamed Bethel by Jacob in Genesis 35:15, on his way from his uncle Laban’s house to rejoin his father in Canaan. (Not to mention that Abraham had already built an altar at Bethel, already not called Luz, in Gen 12:8.) Similarly, the site of Beersheba is given its name on the basis of the oath sworn (nišba ̄ ‘) between Abraham and Abimelech in Genesis 21:31. It is named again by Isaac in Genesis 26:33, on the basis of the oath sworn between him and Abimelech. Jacob’s own name is changed to Israel when he wrestles with the divine being in Genesis 32:29. Jacob’s name is
changed to Israel again by God at Bethel in Genesis 35:10. These doublets are mutually exclusive: in each case, the naming or renaming is recounted as if it is happening for the first and only time.

More striking are the narratives relating the thirst of the Israelites in the wil- derness. In Exodus 17:1–7, just after they have crossed the sea and before they arrive at the mountain in the wilderness, the people complain that they have no water to drink; Yahweh responds by telling Moses to strike a rock, from which water will come forth. Moses strikes the rock, the water comes forth, and the place is named Massah and Meribah. In Numbers 20:2–13, well after the Isra- elites have left the mountain, in the midst of their wilderness wandering, the people complain that they have no water to drink; Yahweh responds by telling Moses to speak to a rock, from which water will come forth. Moses strikes the rock, the water comes forth, and the place is named “the waters of Meribah.” In these stories not only is the same name given to two different places, and for the same reason, but the stories themselves are remarkably similar.

In fact, all of these doublets, and others not discussed here, overlap with the previous group, that is, narrative contradictions. For the double telling of a single event entails two competing historical claims about, at the very least, when that event happened. As we have seen, not only when, but also the char- acteristics of where, who, how, and why may vary from passage to passage, even when the central “what” remains the same.
 

joelr

Well-Known Member
see post Above.

again I said ASK God, for all your myth people are DEAD, LOL, LOL, LOL, Meaning your sources are DEAD.

now go and ask them, get out your wigi board, and tara cards..... lol, lol, ,lol.

101G.



All of the Biblical people are also dead.
The scholars are not dead?
Islamic Muslims and Hindus are all fine?
Bahai are all alive.

If your Gods are real I have a 14 digit number, ask a God what that number is and write it down. God will not mind helping out a dedicated servant?
 
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joelr

Well-Known Member
To all, our friend joelr still cannot understand the difference between a DEAD source vs a LIVE source. answer .... REVELATION. all those myths are stagnant, showing no activity. but the WORD of God is "ALIVE" and ACTIVE.

the bible is alive and well, HOW so,101G?. for God LIVES. example IGNORANT men say ...... a man wrote the bible..... ERROR, a man cannot get out of bed if it was not for GOD. but those men of, of, of, God, anointed with the Holy Spirit, who wrote by God and what to say is not their own words but God's own words example, someone might say the apostle Paul said..... so and so.... ERROR, no, he, as all the apostles spoke or wrote what God said, and not what they said. and if one said anything of themselves it was spoken or written by permission of God. so, no man is responsible for the written word of God, but God HIMSELF.

so any ISSUE any man has, it's with God, and not other men.

and YES, God is alive and well, for he is teaching his.... note, HIS people every day. (smile).

101G

Muhammad had revelations. His Quran is alive and active. Must be true then.

Mormons had a revelation in Joe Smith, alive and well those Mormons are, must be true.

JW are alive and well and their revelation says all other Christians are going to hell at the end days , soon. Must be true because they are alive and well.

The cargo cults are alive and well, formed from revelations. Bahai, alive and well, all revelations.

OR, you are all believing in man-made stories that are fiction and that is why they are all alive and well.

Do you think your posts through before you write?


Please ask God if he will tell you a 14 digit number so a non-believer may see some evidence.

Let me guess, Yahweh doesn't do proofs like that. (because he's not real)
 

101G

Well-Known Member
Ok. I did. Silence. This is in line with imaginary beings.
ask in Faith..... (smile).
And there are not that many
Another ERROR on your Part. Revelation 7:9 "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;"
There are not that many Jews. Christains are 1/3 of all religious believers. Prophecy failed.
see above.... (smile)
Yes we have a good idea of the number of stars in the universe.
Another ERROR on your part. the James Webb telescope just found a whole universe that was supposed to be in an empty part of the visible sky. so you or no man knows, nor can number the star.
That's a stretch. Doesn't work. You haven't done the Baden contradictions either?
it's just you have no understanding nor knowledge.

101G
 

101G

Well-Known Member
Muhammad had revelations. His Quran is alive and active. Must be true then.
can you talk with Muhammad today? ....... thank you
Mormons had a revelation in Joe Smith, alive and well those Mormons are, must be true.
can you talk to Joe Smith today? thoughgt so.
JW are alive and well and their revelation says all other Christians are going to hell at the end days , soon. Must be true because they are alive and well.
did they lie? failed prophecies? false religions don't count. next
The cargo cults are alive and well, formed from revelations. Bahai, alive and well, all revelations.
same question as above.
OR, you are all believing in man-made stories that are fiction and that is why they are all alive and well.
are we? ..... (smile)
Please ask God if he will tell you a 14 digit number so a non-believer may see some evidence.
what's wrong with U?
Let me guess, Yahweh doesn't do proofs like that. (because he's not real)
is he? .... (smile)

101G.
 

joelr

Well-Known Member
ask in Faith..... (smile).

I did, no answer. Even when I was a Christian. Please ask about the 14 digit number and tell me the answer.

Another ERROR on your Part. Revelation 7:9 "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;"

Revelation is a myth. Stars falling, monsters? It's a myth taken from Persian myths.


Apocalypticism | theology

apocalypticism, eschatological (end-time) views and movements that focus on cryptic revelations about a sudden, dramatic, and cataclysmic intervention of God in history; the judgment of all men; the salvation of the faithful elect; and the eventual rule of the elect with God in a renewed heaven and earth. Arising in Zoroastrianism, an Iranian religion founded by the 6th-century-BC prophet Zoroaster, apocalypticism was developed more fully in Judaic, Christian, and Islāmic eschatological speculation and movements.






see above.... (smile)


No, we actually know as a fact that Christians are 1/3 of all religious believers. You are sourcing a myth? That is your evidence? Even if it was true (it's not) it just says "more then they could count"

You seem to be unaware that our modern counting system using Arabic numerals didn't come about until the 7th century.


Another ERROR on your part. the James Webb telescope just found a whole universe that was supposed to be in an empty part of the visible sky. so you or no man knows, nor can number the star.

You keep saying "error" and then saying incorrect things? Webb did not find a "universe", and cosmologists have a general idea of how many stars exist in the visible universe.





it's just you have no understanding nor knowledge.

Great then go ahead and explain them. As it stands right now you cannot.
 

joelr

Well-Known Member
can you talk with Muhammad today? ....... thank you

OF course you can, just like Yahweh. You get down in prayer and talk. Of course neither answer. But if Yahweh does then please tell me the 14 digit number I have written down.

Or, even easier, ask him for the word. It's just a few letters, he will know what word, when he tells you write it down. If 14 numbers are too much for this God ask for 1 word.





can you talk to Joe Smith today? thoughgt so.

Smith was the person who had the revelations. Like Paul. CAN YOU TAKL TO PAUL TODAY? THOUGHT SO.

Man, you just walk right into this.


did they lie? failed prophecies? false religions don't count. next

Exactly. They say your religion is false. False religions don't count. Next.



same question as above.

NO the Cargo Cults had revelations, this is their claim. Your religion makes the same claim. You can't seem to back that up AT ALL. SO it's one big fail.
are we? ..... (smile)

Yes, they are definitely man-made stories. No Gods there.

what's wrong with U?

If you talk to God ask him to tell you a 14 digit number I have written down, it's from pi. Let's hear some evidence.




is he? .... (smile)


No, he is not real. Were you thinking about backing up your claims at some point or just doing this over and over?
 

101G

Well-Known Member
I did, no answer. Even when I was a Christian. Please ask about the 14 digit number and tell me the answer.
are you sure you were in faith? be like the widow woman in the UN-JUST JUDGE, go again. until you get your answer.

I ask about a 14 digit number, for you? are you kidding, that's why you didn't get an answer. "REPENT" you, stouthearted, that are far from righteousness. then go to God for your answer......
Or, even easier, ask him for the word. It's just a few letters, he will know what word, when he tells you write it down. If 14 numbers are too much for this God ask for 1 word.
see above.
Smith was the person who had the revelations. Like Paul. CAN YOU TAKL TO PAUL TODAY? THOUGHT SO.
but I can talk to the one who gave Paul the revelation, the same one whom you need to repent to first, if you want your 14 digit numbered answered..... :eek: YIKES!.
Man, you just walk right into this.
you sure did...... :D
Exactly. They say your religion is false. False religions don't count. Next.
still believing men?..... that's why you don;t have an answer..... (smile).
NO the Cargo Cults had revelations, this is their claim. Your religion makes the same claim. You can't seem to back that up AT ALL. SO it's one big fail.
see above, :rolleyes: Oh dear
Yes, they are definitely man-made stories. No Gods there.
just now finding that out now?
If you talk to God ask him to tell you a 14 digit number I have written down, it's from pi. Let's hear some evidence.
see, ALL of the above.... (smile), LOL, LOL, LOL.
No, he is not real. Were you thinking about backing up your claims at some point or just doing this over and over?
again, see all the above again.... (smile) over, and over again.

101G.
 

101G

Well-Known Member
@joelr,
carnal talk is what facebook and twitter are for, so in the future is you have scripture to discuss, fine, but all else go to facebook and twitter, here we discuss the Word of God. not nonsense.

thanks in advance.

101G.
 
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