Reincarnation and Christian Prophecy

Fool said:

"your" beliefs don't align with the word being used in matthew 19:28. the son of man is not to a specific person. it's to humanity in general. and it violates your belief it doesn't violate scripture. jesus doesn't deny reincarnation in reference to the blind young man john 9. reincarnation doesn't violate that john the baptist and elijah were of the same spirit.

you're choosing to ignore the explicit word jesus used, regeneration.

you can attempt to correct but there are two births and two deaths. the bible teaches the birth of the spirit and the physical birth. being born from above and below. the birth of the physical is the death of the spirit. the birth of the spirit is death to the form. but the spirit is eternal no matter how many forms it takes

you can be born from below more than once.

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please explain how regeneration encompasses being born again, and again, and again and again.

Kenny said:

please explain how regeneration encompasses being born again, and again, and again and again.

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those who overcome do not have to be born physically over and over again. only the spiritually dead are forced to do this again and again. those who are in bondage to the idea of form as an earthly thing. you are what you feed on both physically and spiritually


this is why it is written that those who sleep in the body, the dust, the dead to the spirit, daniel 12:2

because the spirit lives forever the personality doesn't. the form isn't eternal. the spirit was before the form, the person who will rise/fall, and will always be.

god is spirit. god isn't a person;

john 4:24

Fool said:

those who overcome do not have to be born physically over and over again. only the spiritually dead are forced to do this again and again. those who are in bondage to the idea of form as an earthly thing. you are what you feed on both physically and spiritually


this is why it is written that those who sleep in the body, the dust, the dead to the spirit, daniel 12:2

because the spirit lives forever the personality doesn't. the form isn't eternal. the spirit was before the form, the person who will rise/fall, and will always be.

god is spirit. god isn't a person;

john 4:24

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I'm sorry, I still don't see it. If the spirit is eternal, it doesn't need to be reincarnated again and again.

But I will bow out here. Thanks for trying to explain.

Kenny said:

I'm sorry, I still don't see it. If the spirit is eternal, it doesn't need to be reincarnated again and again.

But I will bow out here. Thanks for trying to explain.

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one reason that a demon/unclean spirit wants possession of a body

i can see where this is a personal threat to some who teach contrary. it's going to cost them their typical friends and flocks. they can't serve love, power, and capitalize on it.

so it does if it isn't spiritually maturing and trapped. when the spirit comes into the earth it is inprisoned in the earth, in the carnal. so then if the attraction to the fleshly, earthly isn't overcome then the spirit will choose that vs the higher state of spirit. it will war with the flesh. the person/form will continually die and have to make the journey over to keep up the facade. the identity is with a form.

but this is exactly what some teach as an illusion with the limited person. they either advance to heaven or get sent to hell. but what is hell/heaven but an inner struggle between service to self and service to all as self

if there is no escape from hell why does god exist in hell; if not to continually wait for the self-imposed suffering to stop and love to begin?

its the person free will, their spirit that separates/yokes themselves to love.


hell, or madness, is repeating the same behavior over and over and thinking it's going to get a different result.

also a reason that a demon/unclean spirit wants possession of a body

Fool said:

if jesus wasn't melchizedek, then abraham wouldn't have known him. and abraham was glad to see his day.

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I like how you think.

Personally, I see Abraham as being glad to see Isaac...

John 8:56
"Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad."

In other words, Jesus was Isaac who was born of Sarah...

Revelation 12:5
"And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne."

Isaac was a continuation of the process of being 'purified in a furnace of Earth' with each successive incarnation.

Jesus was ultimately purified seven times. I believe King David was one of those incarnations.

Fool said:

so john the baptist didn't come in the spirit of elijah because reincarnation isn't true?

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The above is an excellent example of Church bias causing Circular Logic in mainstream Bible interpretations.

The Church interprets the Bible with the bias of "Reincarnation = Untrue" causing all kinds of problems and contradictions.

Jesus said it plainly...

Matthew 11:14
"And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come."

John the Baptist was the reincarnation of Elijah. Case closed.