End Times?

Eddi · Jan 26, 2023

For the purposes of discussion imagine that God is someday going to somehow put an end to the world.....

According to your religious beliefs what exactly do you expect to happen?

Eschatology is not one of my strong points and I'm more than a little confused about Christian teachings on the matter and as far as I can see there are many different and conflicting views within Christianity as to what exactly will happen

But how do you (no matter what your religion is) think God will end the world? - and why do you believe what you believe?

And are there currently any signs to be seen that may suggest The End is approaching?

I have started watching YouTube videos about it to educate myself

Secret Chief · Jan 26, 2023

An end to the world at the hands of a deity isn't a part of my beliefs.

amorphous_constellation · Jan 26, 2023

Sometimes I have nightmares of an end, but I think that people have the free-will to avert it. I suspect that any religion, with an eschatological narrative, but with free-will granted to the people in the world, would allow people to avert such problems. I guess a rough biblical argument, for giving humans this level of free-will, is that the prophet section of the bible, and revelation, and the gospels, can all be construed as warnings to people. The implication of that, is that people can choose better actions

Unfortunately, humans now have the ability to destroy the world. They absolutely do not need a deity to do it for them, in other words. I think at some point, the world really needs rock-solid political and international stability. Things that are being said, like in russian state-media for example, are pretty unacceptable

A recent dream I had, did end in a nuclear war. (And for me, I think I seem to mostly have nightmares if I ate too much before sleeping, or messed around with my 3rd shift sleeping pattern too much, giving me a disturbed sleep) I only remember the end of the dream mostly, but I know the first part was interesting too, but I can't recall it

Anyway, after exploring the large supermarkets in the dream or something, I remembered I need to return my grandfather's silver truck, since he'd want it in the morning. In one version of the ending, which was part of the dream, I did. In the other version, I stayed in this large parking lot. I stayed in a large structure made of white tents, which layered each other. I had plenty of socks and a luggage bag. The tent reflected the nukes, and I guess the deity gave all the families white tennis shoes with lead bottoms, and they came out in 2 weeks

Quintessence · Jan 26, 2023

Similarly to Secret Chief, eschawhateveritis is not a component of my tradition.

Entertaining the hypothetical, if the god of the Bible was going to put an end to the world, I'd first ask a few clarifying questions:

What does it mean "to end" something from the perspective of this god?
What encompasses "the world" from the perspective of this god?

I suppose the same questions more or less apply to more familiar gods beyond the capital-G variety too. These things truly are a matter of perspective and the perspective of the gods is what would matter here.

To Sun, "the end" might be Her inevitable and eventual death with "the world" being Her awareness.

To Ocean, "the end" might be the evaporation of all Her waters into space, with "the world" being Her abyssal domain.

To War, "the end" might be the absence of warsome living creatures on earth, with "the world" being the fields of battle.

Quintessence · Jan 26, 2023

ideogenous_mover said:
Unfortunately, humans now have the ability to destroy the world.

We do? Could you elaborate?

If I missed some idiot inventing the planet-disintegrating death ray I'm going to be a little upset...

sun rise · Jan 26, 2023

The idea of an end times is not limited to Christianity. This is one example:

Nilkanthwala a man of God in India made these statements: "Man-made world will end; and God-made world will live (come to life)." Another was, "The earth will split, and men will become helpless and shelterless like beasts roaming on a plateau. A very big cloud will appear. There will be great changes, and rites, rituals and religious ceremonies will be eliminated."

Eddi said:
And are there currently any signs to be seen that may suggest The End is approaching?

What was stable in my youth is no longer stable. I see people flipping out all the time, the growth of various diseases both human and animal and so forth. I also see that others are reacting to the same thing I am. These are "signs" to me but of course not proof positive.

Orbit · Jan 26, 2023

Christians have been predicting the end of the world since Jesus' time. Indeed he said that generation "would not pass" until the end came. Various "prophets" have given various dates (which have all come and gone) for the end. I wouldn't waste my time on youtube videos made by end-times kooks.

amorphous_constellation · Jan 26, 2023

Quintessence said:
We do? Could you elaborate?

If I missed some idiot inventing the planet-disintegrating death ray I'm going to be a little upset...

I don't want to really elaborate, or think about what an all-out nuclear war would do. You know there are plenty of academics talking about what would happen, if thousands, or just hundreds of these things go off. The most salient discussion, that I think I may have found in the last year, is in the youtube video from the 'watson institue for international affairs,' titled 'will the invasion of ukraine lead to nuclear war?' Listen between the 36-42 minute mark to the academic, about our possible extinction, and the soot blocking the sun etc.

Quintessence · Jan 26, 2023

ideogenous_mover said:
I don't want to really elaborate, or think about what an all-out nuclear war would do. You know there are plenty of academics talking about what would happen, if thousands, or just hundreds of these things go off. The most salient discussion, that I think I may have found in the last year, is in the youtube video from the 'watson institue for international affairs,' titled 'will the invasion of ukraine lead to nuclear war?' Listen between the 36-42 minute mark to the academic, about our possible extinction, and the soot blocking the sun etc.

Oh, so "the world" to you doesn't mean the actual planet, it means human life, right? That makes a bit more sense. To me "the world" means the actual, entire planet so I was a bit confused.

amorphous_constellation · Jan 26, 2023

Quintessence said:
Oh, so "the world" to you doesn't mean the actual planet, it means human life, right? That makes a bit more sense. To me "the world" means the actual, entire planet so I was a bit confused.

I'm sure that there would probably be implications for the rest of life, and the physical planet, if what the academic said was to happen. But I suppose you are correct about how I seem to describe things, as I tend to regress to a sort of colloquial interpretation of what things mean. I will try to remember that you take on a more literal meaning, for this term

Quintessence · Jan 26, 2023

ideogenous_mover said:
I'm sure that there would probably be implications for the rest of life, and the physical planet, if what the academic said was to happen. But I suppose you are correct about how I seem to describe things, as I tend to regress to a sort of colloquial interpretation of what things mean. I will try to remember that you take on a more literal meaning, for this term

Well, I'm a Druid (not an anthropocentric religion) who has studied a lot of earth and life sciences. Go figure I don't default to "the world" meaning humans, I guess. Maybe if I'd focused on social sciences...

Brickjectivity · Jan 26, 2023

Eddi said:
According to your religious beliefs what exactly do you expect to happen?

I offer you the idea that it is not "The end of *the* world" but the end of *this* world -- our world of sin and of violence. In other words what the Apocalypse is talking about is not lots of physical blood and things happening to us physically or physical stars falling. None of that would matter. None of that has a spiritual significance. It is about a change in humanity -- changing how things work. This is very likely the actual subject of Revelation or The Apocalypse of John. In my opinion.

Return to basics. When we convert we leave behind our old life and take up a new one. We die to one creation and become part of the new creation. This is what the apocalypse is probably talking about, but it is talking about time and the patience that is required until this new creation in us is all that remains. Its talking about everyone joining in peaceful harmony, but the imagery is that of destruction of the old way of life. The imagery is turbulent and violent, but it is not literal. A more obvious example is that Revelation 19:15 which says Jesus is coming to fight with a sword that comes out of his mouth. His words are effective, but there's no steel sword slicing people up. The imagery is scary, but stick to what its really talking about. The goal is to replace all of the kingdoms of this world with God's kingdom, and it not so easy. We can't do it with weapons or with force, because we'd just be making more the same. Its a kingdom made without physical force and without slaves and without missiles. Its a kingdom without satraps or governors or anything like that, and when it is complete God is all and in all. That is the ultimate victory envisioned in The Apocalypse. In my opinion.

InChrist · Jan 26, 2023

Eddi said:
For the purposes of discussion imagine that God is someday going to somehow put an end to the world.....

According to your religious beliefs what exactly do you expect to happen?

Eschatology is not one of my strong points and I'm more than a little confused about Christian teachings on the matter and as far as I can see there are many different and conflicting views within Christianity as to what exactly will happen

But how do you (no matter what your religion is) think God will end the world? - and why do you believe what you believe?

And are there currently any signs to be seen that may suggest The End is approaching?

I have started watching YouTube videos about it to educate myself

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This is pretty much my perspective…

What is the difference between the Rapture and the Second Coming? | GotQuestions.org

TransmutingSoul · Jan 26, 2023

Eddi said:
And are there currently any signs to be seen that may suggest The End is approaching?

Yes the end of ages was 1844. Since that date a New world Order is unfolding.

The increasing convulsions, the decline of religion is a direct result of our rejection of the Most Great Peace.

The consequences will be catastrophic and world wide, it will result in the Nations of the earth meeting to initiate a Lesser Peace.

Regards Tony

Misunderstood · Jan 26, 2023

Eddi said:
For the purposes of discussion imagine that God is someday going to somehow put an end to the world.....

According to your religious beliefs what exactly do you expect to happen?

Eschatology is not one of my strong points and I'm more than a little confused about Christian teachings on the matter and as far as I can see there are many different and conflicting views within Christianity as to what exactly will happen

But how do you (no matter what your religion is) think God will end the world? - and why do you believe what you believe?

And are there currently any signs to be seen that may suggest The End is approaching?

I have started watching YouTube videos about it to educate myself

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According to scientists speculation, we do not have much time left. 90 seconds to midnight!
The Doomsday Clock Has Moved: How Close Are We to Armageddon in 2023?

In a more scientific prediction that only predicts one end of earth event, we have a bit more time. In the Expansion of the Sun, we have 7.5 Billion years to full expansion. However, life will end much sooner. They are still arguing the timeline, but have it is around 500 Million to 1 Billion years before the sun swallows up the earth. But, we will even have less time than that. As the sun expands towards earth, we will get hotter, so that is not good. Some feel the earth may drift away from the sun at a rate that will keep it from being swallowed up, but we will still not fare well.

Here is a link to an article that explains it slightly.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-sun-will-eventually-engulf-earth-maybe/

I do believe in a biblical end of world event. But whether a Biblical end of the world, or just a natural end to the world. The bible and science are in agreement, there will be an end of the world no matter what we do or can do, at least at this time, there is nothing we can do about it.

As far as when it will happen, not really sure. But I can say we are closer to the end today than we were yesterday, and will be closer tomorrow than today.

IndigoChild5559 · Jan 26, 2023

Quintessence said:
We do? Could you elaborate?

If I missed some idiot inventing the planet-disintegrating death ray I'm going to be a little upset...

Climate change, nuclear war, take your pick.

Sedim Haba · Jan 27, 2023

Eddi said:
For the purposes of discussion imagine that God is someday going to somehow put an end to the world.....

According to your religious beliefs what exactly do you expect to happen?

Eschatology is not one of my strong points and I'm more than a little confused about Christian teachings on the matter and as far as I can see there are many different and conflicting views within Christianity as to what exactly will happen

But how do you (no matter what your religion is) think God will end the world? - and why do you believe what you believe?

And are there currently any signs to be seen that may suggest The End is approaching?

I have started watching YouTube videos about it to educate myself

G-d has already ended the world. By leaving it. In disgust. Can't blame G-d, it's our own fault.
We'll finish the job, sooner rather than later I think.

Soandso · Jan 27, 2023

People have been saying "the end is nigh" since before living memory - certainly before written language. It's kind of a morbid preoccupation, IMO. People in the USA are especially fearful of the prospect, and folks like Jim Bakker make a comfortable living by preying on those fears

Farrukh · Jan 27, 2023

being a Muslim, our scholars told us that It is haraam(forbidden) to utter words that may give the impression of any shortcoming when speaking of Allah, may He be glorified and exalted.
We believe end is near, but only Allah knows when it will happen, maybe few thousand years from now.

Eddi said:
But how do you (no matter what your religion is) think God will end the world?

It is matter of unseen, so I believe what is written in Quran, and what early generations of Muslims reported from Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and written in books.

shunyadragon · Jan 27, 2023

Eddi said:
For the purposes of discussion imagine that God is someday going to somehow put an end to the world.....

According to your religious beliefs what exactly do you expect to happen?

Eschatology is not one of my strong points and I'm more than a little confused about Christian teachings on the matter and as far as I can see there are many different and conflicting views within Christianity as to what exactly will happen

But how do you (no matter what your religion is) think God will end the world? - and why do you believe what you believe?

And are there currently any signs to be seen that may suggest The End is approaching?

I have started watching YouTube videos about it to educate myself

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The text of the Bible can interpreted to refer to 'Ages' of our physical existence and not the 'End of the World,'

Though as previously mention we are capable of 'Ending our World' physically by way of nuclear war, over population, destruction of our environment, and global warming.

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