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Is Jesus Christ the True God?

Is Jesus Christ the God, and all other gods are false gods, i.e. idols?

  • Yes, you are right. Jesus Christ is the God, and all other gods are false gods, i.e. idols.

  • No. I am sorry.


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muhammad_isa

Well-Known Member
You have many concerns maybe you should see a therapist!
Is that the best you can do?
..when I point out how many people are suffering in the world due to the distribution of wealth, you suggest a therapist? o_O

Is that what Jesus woufd have recommended? No.

And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

Do you not think that Almighty God supports the oppressed, the poor unfortunate?
When Jesus returns, Jesus will destroy the anti-Christ and all those with him. They will no longer oppress God's people.

Who are God's people?
They are those who will obey Jesus, and hence God.
The hypocrites will refuse him, as hypocrites do. :rolleyes:
 

Dogknox20

Well-Known Member
Is that the best you can do?
..when I point out how many people are suffering in the world due to the distribution of wealth, you suggest a therapist? o_O

Is that what Jesus woufd have recommended? No.

And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

Do you not think that Almighty God supports the oppressed, the poor unfortunate?
When Jesus returns, Jesus will destroy the anti-Christ and all those with him. They will no longer oppress God's people.

Who are God's people?
They are those who will obey Jesus, and hence God.
The hypocrites will refuse him, as hypocrites do. :rolleyes:
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muhammad_isa Because I am not concerned with distribution of wealth, does not mean anything?
Why should I recommend anything!? I am not an expert in distribution of wealth!

Do Muslims baptize?!

The Almighty God wants all peoples to Love! Love is giving of self to another! The Christian God is our Father we are his Children!
The god of the Muslim is Master you are his Slave!
The Muslim has a different god!
Love is not in the Muslem holy books!? Cut of the head of woman in adultery etc
Cut the hand off of a thief! etc
Woman must have their heads covered have their face covered or they will be stoned! etc

Yes: Jesus will destroy the anti-Christ the anti-Christ is Anti-Christian! All peoples who refuse to love God and neighbor are children of the Anti-Christ!
All those who have faith, but no love are children of the Anti-Christ!
All who reject truth for a lie are children of the Anti-Christ!
All who reject Christians are Anti-Christian! Christians are Christ Followers the anti-Christ is Anti-Christian!
The Muslem teaches Christians are infidel
 

muhammad_isa

Well-Known Member
muhammad_isa Because I am not concerned with distribution of wealth, does not mean anything?
Why should I recommend anything!? I am not an expert in distribution of wealth!
Well you should learn what Jesus taught, and how he behaved..

Do Muslims baptize?!
Yes, but not in a trinitarian formula, quite obviously.

The Muslim has a different god!
What you mean, is that you have a "different god". :)

You worship part of the creation, whilst Jesus and I worship the Creator.
The Creator is not a man .. a man is created by God.

The Muslem teaches Christians are infidel
No, it doesn't.
The Qur'an acknowledges Christians and Jews, and teaches that God, the Most High, blesses whomsoever He wills, and that sincere believers have nothing to fear.

..but you claim that God only loves people who follow your creed. :D
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
If a God by its will created all things it first would be its greatest highest.

Nothing at all about planet earth a rock. Not any beginning.

Not a gas heavens. Not a beginning as it came out of volcanic.

Basic human theism advice.

If earths God is highest greatest as you live. Natural law says its coldest. Protecting all things from the hottest.

That position god cannot create anything. It's protecting.

It's why human theists any Theist is a liar. As you are mutual equal first.

Your owned species a one species by two of its kind to procreate. A human.

God now owns why any of us are still alive by protection clauses only.
 

Dogknox20

Well-Known Member
Well you should learn what Jesus taught, and how he behaved..


Yes, but not in a trinitarian formula, quite obviously.


What you mean, is that you have a "different god". :)

You worship part of the creation, whilst Jesus and I worship the Creator.
The Creator is not a man .. a man is created by God.


No, it doesn't.
The Qur'an acknowledges Christians and Jews, and teaches that God, the Most High, blesses whomsoever He wills, and that sincere believers have nothing to fear.

..but you claim that God only loves people who follow your creed. :D
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muhammad_isa; The trinitarian formula must be used to be a Child of God! Yes, my God is different than yours: My God "Is Love"! He loves all men but not all love him!
Your god is not my God, your god is not my Master I am NOT his Slave!

I am a Child of God my FATHER!
My God LOVES Me!
1 John 4:8
Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.

No you are wrong Christians do not worship creation: Christians worship God the creator!
Jesus is God!
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.

Thomas is a Christian... He is a Christ Follower; he worshiped Jesus!!
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!
29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed
.”

muhammad_isa Christians today are "Blessed" they believe as Thomas believes without seeing Jesus!
Muslims are not blessed they do NOT believe as Christians, they do NOT believe as Thomas believed!
Christians are "Christ Followers"!
muhammad_isa Logic alone says... The Anti-Christ is anti-Christian! Your Muslim religion is anti-Christian your religion is doing the work of the Anti-Christ!
Satan hates Christians he hates truth!
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muhammad_isa

Well-Known Member
My God "Is Love"!
..is "love" a noun or a verb, in that context?
Almighty God is not a buffoon .. He does not love those that plot inequities. He does not love satan.
Almighty God is omniscient. He is aware of our final destinations, and why we reach them.
 

Dogknox20

Well-Known Member
..is "love" a noun or a verb, in that context?
Almighty God is not a buffoon .. He does not love those that plot inequities. He does not love satan.
Almighty God is omniscient. He is aware of our final destinations, and why we reach them.
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muhammad_isa so true! Jesus is NOT a buffoon! God loves the sinner he came to earth to save the sinner!
He does not love sin! Satan is the father of lies! Satan is the Anti-Christ he is Anti-Christian! There is NO Anti-Muslem because the Muslim is doing the work of Satan!

Almighty God is omniscient, he lives outside of Time & Space. Outside of time means he knows our future, outside of space means he is everywhere!

Almighty God came to earth as a man to save us from death! Only God is perfect, only God is without sin, he died; Yes, but death could not hold Jesus because he was sinless!
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Acts 2:38
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

muhammad_isa Jesus cannot die a second time all added to the Holy Body of God will live forever!
Acts 2:40
With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.

3000 were made God' children because they were Immersed into the body of God' only son! 3000 were saved by baptism!
 

Dogknox20

Well-Known Member
..which means that Almighty God let down all those people that existed before Jesus, by sending them "mere prophets".

That makes no sense to me.
muhammad_isa It means Muhamad is a lie!
Jesus is God he came to save all men! Muhamad rejected Jesus as a mere prophet!
The Christian and their God "Jesus" came 600 years before Mahamud! He rejected the truth for a lie!
 

Dogknox20

Well-Known Member
What did Moses come for .. to send men all astray?
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muhammad_isa Christians came 600 years before Muhammad ibn Abdullah was born!
Christians worshiped Jesus as God for 600 years before Muhammad came along and said, "Christians are wrong Jesus is Not God"! Muhammad is "Anti-Christian"! He is Anti-Christ!

What did Moses come for? Moses came to save the people of Iseral from slavery in Egypt! In the desert for 40 years, they became the People of Moses a nation of God!
Abreham was the Father of Iseral, the Jewish people descended from Abraham’s son, Isaac, born of his wife Sarah. Abreham is My Father the Father of all the people of God!
Acts 7:32
‘I am the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.’ Moses trembled with fear and did not dare to look.

Acts 7:8
Then he gave Abraham the covenant of circumcision. And Abraham became the father of Isaac and circumcised him eight days after his birth. Later Isaac became the father of Jacob, and Jacob became the father of the twelve patriarchs.

Galatians 3:29
If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

muhammad_isa Christians came 600 years before Muhammad ibn Abdullah was born, He is NOT of Abraham seed! Muhammad rejects the Children of Abraham: Satan rejects the Children of Abraham they belong to Christ he is Anti-Christian!
 

Dogknox20

Well-Known Member
There is no True God.
Viker good to meet you...
You made a statement with no facts... All it is than, is your opinion! I feel sorry for you because it looks like you are without any Hope!

Many people make money into their god, if this is what you mean by no true god then, I agree with you!
The True God is the Lord Jesus Christ!
Thomas is an Apostol he tells you Jesus is God!
John 20:28
Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed
.”

Jesus tells you: All who believe today as Thomas did Jesus is God are thus blessed!
 

Viker

Häxan
Viker good to meet you...
You made a statement with no facts... All it is than, is your opinion! I feel sorry for you because it looks like you are without any Hope!

Many people make money into their god, if this is what you mean by no true god then, I agree with you!
The True God is the Lord Jesus Christ!
Thomas is an Apostol he tells you Jesus is God!
John 20:28
Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed
.”

Jesus tells you: All who believe today as Thomas did Jesus is God are thus blessed!
I'm not the only one in this thread lacking any facts. There's only opinion here, nothing else. My opinion, the Gods I ascribe to are perfect. Hail Corniger!
 

muhammad_isa

Well-Known Member
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What did Moses come for? Moses came to save the people of Iseral from slavery in Egypt! In the desert for 40 years, they became the People of Moses a nation of God!
..so why didn't Almighty God "send Himself in the flesh" as Moses?
Why didn't Moses come to "save all men"?
 

Dogknox20

Well-Known Member
I'm not the only one in this thread lacking any facts. There's only opinion here, nothing else. My opinion, the Gods I ascribe to are perfect. Hail Corniger!

Viker Hello again....
There are facts. Fact is: "God loves you"!
Many people accept the God of Love as the only true God. He came down to earth in the form of a man to save all men who accept him!
1 John 4:8
Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
 

Viker

Häxan
Viker Hello again....
There are facts. Fact is: "God loves you"!
Many people accept the God of Love as the only true God. He came down to earth in the form of a man to save all men who accept him!
1 John 4:8
Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
No fact there. Just another statement of belief, one more article of faith among many. An opinion.
 

Dogknox20

Well-Known Member
..so why didn't Almighty God "send Himself in the flesh" as Moses?
Why didn't Moses come to "save all men"?
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muhammad_isa hello once again...
You ask "Why"?

God came down to us in the flesh to save us from death! Moses came to save people from slavery in Egypt. Jesus came to save all peoples from a far greater slavery, the slavery of sin! Sin brings death! Jesus destroyed death on the cross by dying! He restored life by rising from the dead "Jesus resurrected from the grave"!

muhammad_isa Moses was a precursor a forerunner! People had to understand the power of sin first to understand the power of Love! Moses brought the Ten (10) commands! These commands were the negative... Don't steal! Don't... Don't... Don't!
The new Commands Jesus brought were Love God & Love neighbor these two (2) are the same as Moses' ten but the reverse they are the Positive! It is a loving act not to steal. It is loving God not to say his name in vain! etc
The Commands of God are now written on every person's heart they were written on Stone with Moses ten! All can love neighbor even the Muslem can love BUT!!

muhammad_isa but it is a more difficult task for the Muslim because of their god! A "Master Slave" relationship lacks all forms of love!
1 John 4:8
Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
2 Corinthians 3:3
You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

Think.... A child cannot sin if they don't know what sin is! Can a baby sin? No!
Adam and Eve ate from the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil" as soon as they ate, they knew they were naked! They knew what sin was and then they died.
All peoples sin and all dye! God is Perfect he is without sin! Jesus died because he was without sin, he rose from the grave never to die a second time!
 

Dogknox20

Well-Known Member
No fact there. Just another statement of belief, one more article of faith among many. An opinion.

Viker Jesus rose from the dead... This is a fact!
Death had no hold on Jesus because he was sinless!

Only God is without sin! The wage of sin is death! Death could not hold Jesus in the grave so Jesus rose out of the grave as a cork might rise up in a pool of water! Never to die a second time no person can die twice!
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
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