"THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

3rdAngel said:

Lets talk more when you can prove your claims. Until then we can agree to disagree. Take Care dear friend.

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3rdAngel said:

Amazing fun scripture facts from the bible about God's 4th commandment

• Fact # 1. Chapter and scripture context to Colossians 2:16 is to the ceremonial shadow laws of circumcision and baptism, ceremonial laws in ordinances, that are nailed to the cross, food offerings and drink offerings, new moons in the annual feast days and their sabbaths and not judging others in context to the above.

• Fact # 2. Colossians 2 no where states that is talking about any of God's 10 commandments but the context is to the ceremonial Mosaic laws (e.g. sin offerings etc)

• Fact # 3 Colossians 2:16 is in context to annual sabbaths in the feast days (plural as there is more than one ceremonial sabbath *Leviticus 23:6-8; Leviticus 23:27-32; Leviticus 23:24-25; Leviticus 23:34-36; Leviticus 23:39; Leviticus 23:7-8; 21;24; 27; 35-36; Leviticus 25:2; Leviticus 25:9-54 and no where states that it is talking about God's 4th commandment and all sabbath.

• Fact # 4. God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandment is our weekly moral duty of love to God and one of God's eternal laws that the new testament scriptures state give us the knowledge of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS if broken or obeyed *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4; Psalms 119:172; 1 Corinthians 7:19; 1 John 2:3-4; 1 John 3:6-9; Revelation 14:12; Revelations 22:14; John 14:15; Hebrews 4:9; James 2:10-11; Matthew 5:17-19.

• Fact # 5 There is not a single scripture in all of Gods' Word that says God's 4th commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep "Sunday" or the "First day" of the week as a Holy day.

• Fact # 6 "Sunday" or the "First day of the week" is never called a "Holy day" in any scripture in the bible.

• Fact # 7 "Sunday" or the "First day" of the week was never "blessed" or set aside by God for anything in any scripture in the bible other than work.

• Fact # 8 God set apart the "seventh day of the week from all the other days of the week at the end of creation as a day of rest for all mankind *Genesis 2:1-3; Mark 2:27

• Fact # 9 God set apart the "seventh day of the week from all the other days of the week at the end of creation as a day of rest for all mankind and made the seventh day of the week a "Holy day of rest" *Genesis 2:1-3; Mark 2:27

• Fact # 10 God commands his people to keep the "seventh day" of the week as a Holy day or rest and it is one of God's 10 commandments that define what sin is if knowingly broken *Exodus 20:8-11; Romans 3:20; James 2:10-11

• Fact # 11 JESUS is the creator God of the Sabbath who made all things *John 1:1-4; John 1:14; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:16.

• Fact # 12 JESUS is Lord of the Sabbath. It is the "Lords day" of rest *Hebrews 4:1-5 and JESUS created the Sabbath for all mankind as a memorial of creation and celebration of God as the creator of heaven and earth and commands His people to keep it as a memorial of creation and a holy day of rest *Mark 2:27-28; Genesis 2:1-3; Exodus 20:8-11; Hebrews 4:9; James 2:8-10

• Fact # 13 God's 4th commandment Sabbath of the 10 commandments is not a shadow law because the shadow laws were not given until after the fall of mankind when Adam and Eve sinned against God. The prophetic "shadow law" part of the Mosaic laws (not 10 commandments) foreshadowing the coming of Christ and God's plan of salvation for all mankind. The Sabbath points back to the finished work of creation not forward to something to come because there was no sin when God created the Sabbath for man and no plan of salvation was given *Genesis 2:1-3

• Fact # 14 God's people will be still keeping the Sabbath after the second coming in the new heavens and the new earth *Isaiah 66:22-23

• Fact # 15 There is no scripture that says that God's Sabbath was changed to "Sunday" or the first day of the week

• Fact # 16 There is no scripture that states anywhere that JESUS is a Sabbath. The sabbath is defined in God's Word alone as "the seventh day" of the week *Exodus 20:10

• Fact # 17 There is no scripture that says we are to keep the first day as a Holy day of rest before or after the resurrection of Jesus by any of the Apostles.

• Fact # 18 There is no scripture that ever calls the first day of the week (Sunday) a holy day. Sunday has it's origins in pagan sun worship.

• Fact # 19 There is no scripture that ever givers Sunday or the first day of the week a sacred name.

• Fact # 20 There is no scripture that says any of the Apostles kept Sunday or the first day of the week as a Sabbath.

• Fact # 21 There is no scripture from any apostolic writings that authorizes Sunday observance as the Sabbath.

• Fact # 22 There is no scripture where we are told to rest and not to work on the first day of the week.

• Fact # 23 There is no scripture that says the seventh day is no longer God's Sabbath day.

• Fact # 24 There is no scripture that says the seventh day Sabbath has been abolished.

• Fact # 25 There is no scripture that the apostles ever taught any convert to keep the first day of the week as a Sabbath or a holy day in honor of the resurrection of Jesus.

• Fact # 26 There is no scripture that says first day was ever appointed to be kept as the Lord's Day.

• Fact # 27 There is no scripture that says the first day of the week is ever called the Lord's Day.

• Fact # 28 There is no scripture that says the first day of the week was ever sanctified and hallowed as a day of rest.

• Fact # 29 There is no scripture that says that says that the Father or the Son (Jesus) rested on the first day of the week

• Fact # 30 There is no scripture that says that Jesus, Paul or any other of the apostles taught anyone to observe the first day of the week as the Sabbath.

• Fact # 31 There is no scripture that says that calls the seventh day the “Jewish Sabbath” or one text that calls Sunday or the first day of the week the “Christian Sabbath”

• Fact # 32 There is no scripture telling man to keep the first day of the week holy or to worship or rest on the first day of the week.

• Fact # 33 There is no scripture authorizing anyone to set aside God's Sabbath and observe any other day

• Fact # 34 There is no scripture showing any of the apostles keeping the first day of the week as the Sabbath

• Fact # 35 There is no scripture authorizing someone to set aside the fourth Commandment and observe any other day of the week?

• Fact # 36 There is no scripture where any apostle taught us to keep the first day of the week as the Sabbath.

• Fact # 37 There is no scripture declaring that the "seventh day" of the week is no longer the eternal Sabbath day as given in God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments.

• Fact # 38 There is no scripture that says Sunday is now appointed day to be kept as the New Testament Sabbath or holy day.

May God bless you all as you seek him through his Word

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Subduction Zone said:

Alright, quite the Gish Gallop again. And you know what that means. Refuting one claim refutes them all. This is not the proper way to debate. And you should really be using a better translation. The King James Version is far too poetic for most people to understand properly. Why not use the NIV? The meanings of various verses are clearer, and it does not look good for you.

Also, if you want to use the term "scripture" you need to define it. There appear to be problems with the word as you use it.

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Subduction Zone said:

I can always prove my claims. It simply is not worth going over your past losses. When you get done running away then perhaps we can have a conversation.

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3rdAngel said:

Go ahead and prove your claims? If you cannot what do you have? - Nothing again, just more empty words that you cannot prove.

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3rdAngel said:

This claim has already been proven to be false as demonstrated in our discussions already. Lets talk more when you can prove what you say. Lets not be dishonest here. There is no need for it.

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Subduction Zone said:

Incorrect since you continually run away we have never had a proper discussion.
Do you want to have a proper discussion or are you going to just keep denying everything again?

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Subduction Zone said:

Dude! You keep running away. We never even get to the proof parts. And how many times have I told you that I will not go over your past losses? That would be a waste of time. You denied it in the past so why do you think that you would not just go into instant denial mode again? O!! And look! You ran away from the serious part of the discussion that you could not handle again. Amazing.

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3rdAngel said:

Actually it is correct. Running away is when you make claims and accusations and are not able to support them with any evidence which is what you do.

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3rdAngel said:

So you have nothing to support your claims do you. I did not think so. Just more of the same.

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Subduction Zone said:

Nope, ironically you just ran away from the serious part of my prior post. I do not have to link to your past failures because you keep repeating them. As you did on this page. You made a long post that was a Gish Gallop. You were warned about those. That is an improper debating technique.
And you could not even properly quote the verses that you thought that supported you or explain why they did. Why should anyone take you seriously?

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Subduction Zone said:

Wrong again. I referred to your latest failure. And yet you continue to run away from that.

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3rdAngel said:

Your projecting again. Running away is what you have been doing making empty claims and accusations you have not been able to prove with evidence and when asked you do not provide any and run away from the discussion.

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3rdAngel said:

Lets be honest and tell the truth. You have been making false claims and accusations you are unwilling to provide any evidence for then run away.

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Subduction Zone said:

No, you are describing yourself again. You won't even let me begin to support my claims. You run away as you did when I commented on your latest Gish Gallop. It is still at the top of this page. No. Not one. I have repeatedly told you that I will not dig up old posts. Yet the post that I am willing to discuss is the one that you are still running away from.

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3rdAngel said:

Wrong. The evidence that disagrees with you showing that you make false claims and accusations then run away has already been provided here see post # 602 linked and post # 642 linked. Lets talk more when you can support what you claims with evidence. You do make me smile though.

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3rdAngel said:

Wrong. The evidence that disagrees with you showing that you make false claims and accusations then run away has already been provided here see post # 602 linked and post # 642 linked. Lets talk more when you can support what you claims with evidence. You do make me smile though.

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samtonga43 said:

Yep. False claims and accusations and then off he trots.
Over and over again, ad infinitum. But I think that more and more of us are seeing SZ for what he is.

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samtonga43 said:

Yep. False claims and accusations and then off he trots.
Over and over again, ad infinitum. But I think that more and more of us are seeing SZ for what he is.

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3rdAngel said:

Your projecting again. Running away is what you have been doing making empty claims and accusations you have not been able to prove with evidence and when asked you do not provide any and run away from the discussion.

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3rdAngel said:

Hey Sam nice to meet you. Yep, what amazes me however is that when evidence is posted that disagrees with his false claims and accusations that he cannot argue against he just runs away from the discussion and simply pretends the evidence that is in disagreement with his false claims and accusations does not exist (e.g. see post # 602 linked and post # 642 linked). Sounds like Donald Trumps apprentice.

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