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Optimism For China

Debater Slayer

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Locking people inside buildings seems to me a horrible policy if the goal is to save as many lives as possible. It seems the Chinese regime focused so much on the letter of "zero COVID" that they forgot the spirit—that is, saving lives and maximizing citizens' health.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Debater Slayer said:
Locking people inside buildings seems to me a horrible policy if the goal is to save as many lives as possible. It seems the Chinese regime focused so much on the letter of "zero COVID" that they forgot the spirit—that is, saving lives and maximizing citizens' health.
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It appears to be about security & order at any cost to life & liberty.
 
Debater Slayer

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Revoltingest said:
It appears to be about security & order at any cost to life & liberty.
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Yeah, I'm in favor of a balance in such a situation as a pandemic: neither a complete lack of preventive measures nor so much restriction that people are locked inside buildings.
 
PureX

PureX

Veteran Member
This is a nation that builds massive cities for no one to live in. I'm not sure that kind of thinking is even fixable.
 
sun rise

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
The use of blank paper to indicate a political stance is a classic and wonderful example of how people really want to be able to speak freely no matter how badly they are suppressed and repressed.

I would not expect regime change or anything very drastic to change at all from this but like Tienanmen Square in 1989 it's an expression of the desire for freedom which sooner or later must happen.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Debater Slayer said:
Locking people inside buildings seems to me a horrible policy if the goal is to save as many lives as possible. It seems the Chinese regime focused so much on the letter of "zero COVID" that they forgot the spirit—that is, saving lives and maximizing citizens' health.
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Welcome to the wonderful world of communism.
 
Debater Slayer

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Twilight Hue said:
Welcome to the wonderful world of communism.
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China currently doesn't employ communism; it has become noticeably capitalistic. Nonetheless, the authoritarianism has often been a feature of its governments both under Maoist and capitalist regimes.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Truthseeker said:
The protests were worse in Tiananmen square. That one was crushed. Even it there aren't they still will be crushed.
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There are no guarantees about unrest
leading to revolution...or whether things
improve or get worse.
I have hope, not expectation.
 
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