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COVID killed twice as many republicans as it did democrats.

Father Heathen

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Wildswanderer said:
We have " established" no such thing. You made a claim and of course the propaganda machine supports the narrative, in spite of the evidence.
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Death certificates and voter registries aren't evidence? You appear to dismiss anything that doesn't support your narrative as "propaganda".

What's your evidence? All you have is goofy conspiracy theory swill that's unsubstantiated and implausible. Your Qanon **** is nothing but a joke, son.
 
Father Heathen

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
*shown overwhelming evidence that confirms reckless, irresponsible behavior resulted in countless deaths that were preventable*

Science denier: "Well, you see, actually, the thing is..." *contorts into a pretzel mid backflip*

It's disgusting and disgraceful that people are actually doubling down on this.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
This is the study that the source that @Wildswanderer so badly mischaracterized. It does not appear to support the claims when one reads it. All that his source did was to cherry pick it instead of reading ideas in context. If we have any people actively working in the medical fields I would like to hear their take on this:

Outcomes at least 90 days since onset of myocarditis after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in adolescents and young adults in the USA: a follow-up surveillance study

And this is why dishonest sources are not trusted. They may find a study but they far more often than not will distort it.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Shaul said:
I feel sorry for you. I truly do.
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Really? And you do not feel sorry for yourself? That is amazing. Okay, that was a bit of a personal attack in response to one. I really should not do that. Perhaps instead of personal attacks you could try to support your claims for once.
 
9-10ths_Penguin

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Shaul said:
I feel sorry for you. I truly do.
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Understandable. It's easier than being honest with yourself about the damage you've done. Regret is a heavy burden.

BTW: still waiting on an answer to this question:
9-10ths_Penguin said:
And most road crash fatalities are among those who wear seatbelts.

You claim to be a math teacher, don't you?
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... though I understand why you'd want to avoid giving an answer that implies "yes, I'm very familiar with the methods that would tell me that my argument is bull****."
 
Guitar's Cry

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
stvdv said:
I did not say this
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Well...to be fair you did:

"Those who don't take the vaccine trust their gut feeling and dare rely on their own immune system while most vaxxers don't.

Both facts highly improve ones immune system"

You have two ideas in the former statement that in the latter statement you declare "highly improve one's immune system."

stvdv said:
Experts said so

My common sense says so too
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Which experts? I would suggest that some experts say this (often dubiously), but the majority of experts say vaccination is important in improving your ability to fight the disease quickly and more effectively. This is logically true given the function of vaccines is to help your immune identity the specific disease to target it.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Wildswanderer said:
The evidence is thousands of deaths after vaccination. The myth is pretending most are coincidence.
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Only thousands?
That's far better than the millions of Covid-19 deaths.
But if you argue that these thousands of deaths are
significant, where's the analysis comparing vaxed vs
un-vaxed status.
After all, many people die each year from surgery
to remove cancerous tissue, yet the lack of surgery
has far worse outcomes.
 
W

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
Jayhawker Soule said:
That's not at all what I said. It is deeply dishonest albeit unsurprising.

Parenthetically:

... CDC continues to recommend that everyone ages 6 months and older get vaccinated for COVID-19. The known risks of COVID-19 illness and its related, possibly severe complications, such as long-term health problems, hospitalization, and even death, far outweigh the potential risks of having a rare adverse reaction to vaccination, including the possible risk of myocarditis or pericarditis. [source]​
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Of course they do.
Oh you assume they are honest?
How silly
CDC refusing to publish data on booster effectiveness for those 18-49

CDC sued for vaccine safety app data after multiple refusals
 
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Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
Revoltingest said:
Only thousands?
That's far better than the millions of Covid-19 deaths.
But if you argue that these thousands of deaths are
significant, where's the analysis comparing vaxed vs
un-vaxed status.
After all, many people die each year from surgery
to remove cancerous tissue, yet the lack of surgery
has far worse outcomes.
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,At least thousands dead and 18 million hospitallized because of the jab.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Wildswanderer said:
You get to decide what sources are proper... funny they are all from people who lose credibility if the truth is known.
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LOL!! So backwards The last source quoted and linked a study that refutes them if you read it and understood it.

This is the problem that one runs into when one is scientifically illiterate. The ultimate sources so that one is wrong.
 
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Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
Revoltingest said:
Source?
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Of the 10 million people who participated in V-safe – again, a massive sample size – 3.3 million reported Adverse Health Impacts (AHIs) immediately after their first vaccination. That’s 33% or one-in-three. Of those 3.3 million people, 1.2 million reported that they were unable to perform daily activities for a time after vaccination. 1.3 million reported getting so sick from the shots that they had to miss school or work. And about 800,000 reported being hospitalized by their COVID vaccination. That last figure is the most worrisome. 800,000 hospitalizations out of 10 million people? That’s an 8% hospitalization rate. It means that as many as 18 million of the 230 million people who received at least one shot may have been hospitalized with an adverse reaction.

How Many SARS-CoV-2-Infected People Require Hospitalization? Using Random Sample Testing to Better Inform Preparedness Efforts - PubMed
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Wildswanderer said:
Of the 10 million people who participated in V-safe – again, a massive sample size – 3.3 million reported Adverse Health Impacts (AHIs) immediately after their first vaccination. That’s 33% or one-in-three. Of those 3.3 million people, 1.2 million reported that they were unable to perform daily activities for a time after vaccination. 1.3 million reported getting so sick from the shots that they had to miss school or work. And about 800,000 reported being hospitalized by their COVID vaccination. That last figure is the most worrisome. 800,000 hospitalizations out of 10 million people? That’s an 8% hospitalization rate. It means that as many as 18 million of the 230 million people who received at least one shot may have been hospitalized with an adverse reaction.

How Many SARS-CoV-2-Infected People Require Hospitalization? Using Random Sample Testing to Better Inform Preparedness Efforts - PubMed
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I clicked on, & read you link.
It doesn't address what you claimed in your post.
The words "adverse", "vaccinate", & "vaccination"
don't even appear in the article.
 
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