If the university is a state school, there might
be a 1st Amendment problem...& perhaps 8th
Amendment (excessive punishment).
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White Florida quarterback loses scholarship for using N-word on social media
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be a 1st Amendment problem...& perhaps 8th
Amendment (excessive punishment).
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I would say a black man dancing to southern country music.
Revoke that scholarship*!
*Actually his dancing was freaking cool! He needs to be awarded a scholarship!
Possibly, although students and faculty may be bound to follow a code of conduct.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
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Big difference
Even the filter shows the context and intention and yep, the second word was the real thing. The bad wolf kind of word.
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The downside is that "woke" doesn't really have any consistent set of principles and there's a certain sense of hypocrisy in imposing different sets of rules on people based on race or other immutable conditions.
A court might find that code to be unreasonable.
- Enforced in racially disparate manner?
- Unconstitutional restriction of speech?
- Excessive punishment?
- Vague?
I don't know what this FL school does, but at my alma
mater, student athletes didn't lose scholarships for
crimes like assault, gun threats, rape, & vandalism.
(Note: Rape is treated seriously now. To even be
accused is grounds for punishment.)
It could be. I recall that, at some point when I was in college (early to mid 1980s), the University President made a big announcement in the school newspaper that there was a change in the code of conduct regarding discrimination, harassment, and language disparaging someone's race, sex, religion, sexual orientation, etc. A few days later, I heard the term "political correctness" for the first time, as there were a number of people in the Poly Sci department making a big thing out of it.
Codes should be resisted at times.
**** speech codes!
I'm inclined to agree.
This article is from 2014, but it's about a 5-minute read and kind of interesting: The Free Speech Movement at 50: The movement won; free speech lost. | City Journal (city-journal.org)
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I wouldn't be surprised if the only ones offended and outraged were white SJWs.
With the rise of MAGA and all of its forms of racism and discrimination, which is in some way a response to many marginalized citizens being recognized for who they are (as a civilized society should be), we have to think about what we say in public. The MAGAs are fighting for significance, and they are losing. But part of the fight is to work on being decent and supporting the marginalized. This way the MAGAs have less to believe is suport for their extremism and intolerance.
Cops are still being caught on video doing criminal acts, and that is because they haven't learned that video is not always your friend. Young people need to learn that social media is a window to privacy and not all things need to be broadcast to the world. Maybe this kid didn't have bad intent, but he showed poor judgment, and now he's learned a lesson.
Is the school right to cancel his scholarship? Well in this world of extreme sides in a culture war (thanks MAGAs) with the marginalized seeking acceptance and MAGAs attacking them, institutions will side with the marginalized because dignity and rights is what morals require.
Cops are still being caught on video doing criminal acts, and that is because they haven't learned that video is not always your friend. Young people need to learn that social media is a window to privacy and not all things need to be broadcast to the world. Maybe this kid didn't have bad intent, but he showed poor judgment, and now he's learned a lesson.
Is the school right to cancel his scholarship? Well in this world of extreme sides in a culture war (thanks MAGAs) with the marginalized seeking acceptance and MAGAs attacking them, institutions will side with the marginalized because dignity and rights is what morals require.
I like that last one.
You forgot "fruit." When they called me that in highschool (at a private boarding school), I always responded, "I'm not a fruit! I'm the whole friggin' orchard!"
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
And the ones praising are the cancel culture crowd.
I left out many that I knew.I like that last one.
You forgot "fruit." When they called me that in highschool (at a private boarding school), I always responded, "I'm not a fruit! I'm the whole friggin' orchard!"
No walls of text, Orchard Boy!
I have found in my conversations with some Western liberals that some who think they understand other cultures have very little idea what our (i.e., Arab) culture is like or what most people believe in the Arab world. There's so much projection in general whether on the left or the right, and it highlights the presence of salient cultural blind spots.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I'm sure most know the answer to that question.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
"Cancel culture" does nothing to promote tolerance, acceptance, understanding, etc.
This on the surface sounds like an example of why the fanatical WOKE people have gone too far. I go to a gym with a mixed crowd and I hear blacks using the 'N-word' frequently in conversation. And then I get in an Uber car with a black driver and he's playing rap music that's using the N-word all over the place.
I mean context is everything if you are worried about hate. I see no sign of hate in this white quarterback from what we're told. Do they decline scholarships to every black person that sings along to N-word rap songs or uses the word in conversation?
I mean context is everything if you are worried about hate. I see no sign of hate in this white quarterback from what we're told. Do they decline scholarships to every black person that sings along to N-word rap songs or uses the word in conversation?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I want one whistling Dixie on social media and watching Nascar while drinking beer and waving a Confederate flag!