Colt
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Maybe if ALL news outlets joined together and decided to forgo reporting any more than the basic print on these events then they wouldn't be as enchanting to sick minds?
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Yet another mass shooting...
- Thread starter Father Heathen
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Well, in most cases, the names are of people I don't know personally, so it's not as if it means that much to me. There have been a few local cases where I've recognized the names of murderers, one of which I went to school with and another was a co-worker.
But I think much of the public is probably interested in motive and why it happened. I don't see how the press can avoid covering that aspect, even if they might withhold the name.
Colt
Well-Known Member
The right to bear arms has always been about self-defense. Currently the pop trend among politicians in America is to defund police as a way to deal with crime.
Defensive use of firearms doesn't make the news loops. It's not profitable clickbait.
Yeah, I can see that, though the name is a matter of public record and will come out eventually anyway. I don't see how their names can be completely erased from existence.
Colt
Well-Known Member
More than the individual notoriety, these events seem to "advertise" the idea of doing it.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I am torn about this. The motives are beginning to come out due to his name being released.
Heyo
Veteran Member
And to buy another gun for "self defence". After mass shootings gun sales go up. That's why the NRA blocks all measures of gun restrictions in help of the manufacturers. The best advertisement they can get are crazy people with guns.
Perhaps, though I wonder if it's more of a localized notoriety. That is, obviously people who knew the shooter personally would know. In this case, a Walmart manager shooting employees may have known his victims personally.
In other kinds of shootings where it just seems like random, mindless "lashing out" against people the shooter didn't know, it's hard to determine why or how they chose their victims, but the motive seems that they want to demonstrate that they're angry towards someone.
And it is only when enough people stop being sad and start being angry that there will be any hope of change.
Colt
Well-Known Member
Thats true but we live in a society of stupid people who blame the gun and not the gunman. The same administration that is desperately arming Ukrainians against Communist aggression wants to disarm Americans against criminal aggression.
Colt
Well-Known Member
Yea, I mean, I assume we don't understand these people becuse we aren't nuts! The story of the UVA shooter is just so creepy and bizarre! Who could have detected it?
amorphous_constellation
Well-Known Member
I don't think the right-wing, or don't believe that the right-wing, does not also want to send arms there, despite what they say on fox news. I just flat out don't believe it. If the the networks give the appearance that they are against it, it's because they are just being contrarian
Colt
Well-Known Member
I'm on the right and I fully support Biden and NATO arming Ukrainians against Russia. You are correct, some right-wing people are so bias that they are just being contrarian.
But isn't it ironic that Biden sees the need for Ukrainians to defend themselves but not Americans?
BTW, anyone remember when Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons for the sake of peace????
"Seeking peace and stability, Ukraine agreed in 1994 to destroy all nuclear weapons present in the country and join the Treaty on the Nonproliferation of Nuclear Weapons. It also agreed to send 575 Kh-55 missiles to Russia, while the rest were to be scrapped under a U.S.-funded disarmament program."
Russia Attacks With Rockets Ukraine 'Gave Up' in Peace Plan: Zelensky Aide.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
We're good. It's about 30So sorry to hear FH.Hope all you and yours are safe and sound.
So sorry to hear FH.
Sure, if you ignore ease, efficiency, and effectiveness.
amorphous_constellation
Well-Known Member
I'm an independent, and I've never felt very strongly about regulating arms until no one can have anything. I personally think we don't have strong enough self defense laws, but I don't want to vote for republicans.
On Ukraine: for a long time, I thought we should stop providing arms to them to prevent nuclear war, but recently I've seemed to change my mind, after reading about too many atrocities from the Russian side. But I think there is probably a sizable risk of a nuclear war, or of that nuclear power plant blowing up, if things don't cool down somehow
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
False equivalency and an extremely imbecilic comparison.
Colt
Well-Known Member
Let's hope Putin is eliminated from within before Nukes are used. Weve learned that Russia's army is horribly inadequate, and Russia is still just a gigantic, organized crime nation.
Colt
Well-Known Member
Self-defense from the consequences of the acts of naive Leftist is the perfect comparison. Of course, the truth pisses you off!False equivalency and an extremely imbecilic comparison.