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Homosexuality and religious.

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
The future will embrace humanities oneness under One God, not an exclusive doctrine of a trinity that closes the eyes to all God's Manifestations, who are all 'Christ'.

Regards Tony
Embracing one belief for another is just as exclusive. Everyone that does not believe like Baha'is, are wrong.
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
I offer Christ is more than a single Name, I offer Christ is all the Names and Attributes of God and has been manifested in more than a single flesh body that was 2000 years ago called Jesus. All God's Messengers are 'Annointed Ones', they One and All are One in God and they One and All impart to us the Holy Spirit.

So to embrace Jesus, one would also embrace Muhammad, Zoroaster, Buddha and Krishna to name a few more of God's Names and Attributes shown in the past.

Regards Tony
Yes, if a person believes the Baha'i interpretation. But is Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Buddha, Muhammad and Zoroaster manifestations? And who else? Then is Jesus and Krishna incarnations of God? And who else? Since there were several other incarnations prior to Krishna. But how many after Krishna? And is the Jewish Messiah a manifestation or an incarnation or neither one? And how many Messiahs are there? There are several "anointed ones". Were all of them manifestations? Or is there only one The Messiah?

I know you can't answer any of these things any different then you already have, because you believe there is only one truth, the Baha'i truth. And the Baha'i truth only simplifies and generalizes all these things and ignores some of them to come up with their answer.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Laws forbidding homosexuality and not allowing them to marry is already a law in several countries. So, doesn't that mean it is embraced outside of the Baha'i Faith. And that maybe the Baha'i Faith is just going along with Islamic law on this?

We are yet to embrace a global consciousness in regards to this matter.

Regards Tony
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I know you can't answer any of these things any different then you already have, because you believe there is only one truth, the Baha'i truth. And the Baha'i truth only simplifies and generalizes all these things and ignores some of them to come up with their answer.

After all this time you still impart your opinion as to what a Baha'i believes. What you said is incorrect.

Yes I now choose not to offer much of the same again.

Regards Tony
 
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samtonga43

Well-Known Member
Yes a quandary indeed. The Word never passes away, but we can embrace new understandings.
The Word Became Flesh
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life,a and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. John 1
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
Yes. Anyone who belongs to Christ has become a new person.
Even Christ, with a New Name, is made new, but is eternal.
Christ is eternally the Second Person of the Trinity. No need for a 'new name'.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Testimony covered human biology sacrificed. Old types of bio change testimony exodus of genetics then new.

Healer medical and legal.

If human medical knew blood changed as had the human cell. Not supported by the heavens. Animal flesh became impure... worms. Then murder of the homosexual life had been assessed.

Why they were dying.

Law said homosexual life by laws of god changed had been murdered.

Therefore as the past is the same life inherited today ....homosexual life had been murdered. Aids...HIV of course known blood bacterias by cell change. Sex simply became illegal in the past.

As was a no sex agreement met. Celibacy.

Today we only warn the wisdom of life medical as sexual body dangers.

We had plagues since inherited and we inherited a new form of stigmata... ebola.

Life sacrifice is by the heavenly mass changing. Body of god sacrificed removed from presence. Body mass.

Heavens stated to own why human body cell blood bone of humans health existed. Change it..so does life's biology.

It was known legally.

Cells in body organs since are changing...after covid. Says autopsy.

We know from Baha'i new teachings human spirituality was not missing. It was always present even in the darkest cruelest days. An important human realisation.

To say remember Jesus owned a legal teaching. About mind conscious and body health changed because of star fall returned then technology machine.

Therefore if humans legal is only applied after mind body conscious human life was seen changed...it wasn't illegal by human law first. It was illegal by gods law.

As all one presence was it's owned highest life body type. With God.

Change gods created laws of course biology living by highest conditions would prove changed. Gods law and God it stated murdered to gain the changed life.

Humans legal was imposed to stop it. Technology causes.

Not to murder itself. As or by human law.

What the Baha'i teaching tried to impose.

Beautification of mind proved to want to impose human law to murder as legal righteous...the previous consciousness had been changed.

As the aware teaching stated. It wasn't correct reading. Teaching had changed. As mind had. In the era Muslims had wanted to rebuild the temple technology. All teachings had a purpose.

Any historical document was and had always been referenced for similarity.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
But they are not healthy.
o_O When was the last time someone died from adultery?

I'm kidding. But seriously, this is your opinion right? Is there anything you can bring which shows that sex out of marriage is *actually* unhealthy?

I think I posted this before, but here it is again: Sexual Repression

"Nothing inspires murderous mayhem in human beings more reliably than sexual repression. "

" if expression of sexuality is thwarted, the human psyche tends to grow twisted into grotesque, enraged perversions of desire"​
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
No Lawful and healthy use, it offered.

Regards Tony
FALSE. It says "OR". If it's scripture it needs to be read very carefully.
Outside of marital life there can be no lawful or healthy use of the sex impulse

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TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
When was the last time someone died from adultery?

Most likely people dying from adultery is still a daily occurrence, but none think of the victims of the gross dishonesty

Families torn apart, suicide, depression etc etc. The long term consequences to society are unestimatable. To look at the dysfunctional world where people struggle with their identity, is but one hint of the repercussions.

Regards Tony
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The Word Became Flesh
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life,a and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. John 1

This can be considered in a different frame of reference.

When one considers God does not decend into creation, we can consider that this Passage is describing the Station of the Messenger as the 'Self of God" amongst us.

It was all the Messengers (the Word made flesh) that are mentioned in that passage, all of them were "in the beginning with God", as they are all made of the Word of God, all of them ONE of God.

Thus the new name is an important understanding of the Word made Flesh. As in each age that Word comes with a different Name God. Many Bible passages talk about the Names of God and that in the last Day, all those Names will become One.

But the Bible warns only those that receive that Name, will know it is of God.

Revelation 2:17
"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, to him I will give some of the hidden manna, and I will give him a white stone, and a new name written on the stone which no one knows but he who receives it.’"

Revelation 3:12
"He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will not go out from it anymore; and I will write on him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God, and My new name"

Source: 5 Bible verses about A New Name

Christ is the key, just as Peter offered and what Jesus said he will build the church upon. Christ means 'Annointed One', to us that meant Jesus was the Flesh representative of the 'Word made Flesh', yet the flesh amounts to nothing, it is the Spirit from God that is the Light and Life and gives life to flesh, as we must be born again.

Regards Tony
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
To look at the dysfunctional world where people struggle with their identity, is but one hint of the repercussions.

People don't identify as theives, adulterers, etc usually, so I assume for once, you're giving a straightforward view on what you truly think of a victimized minority group like LGBT+ under the sunglasses of the Baha'i faith.

See, now was that so hard? It only took 283 pages.
 

Trailblazer

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