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Why is this world out of control?

Sand Dancer

Crazy Cat Lady
Or a God who supposedly knows the future, creates a spirit being and gives it all sorts of power and free will, and then blame it for rebelling against him. Then doesn't destroy it but sends it to Earth? But, the good news, one day Jesus will chain him up and all will be well for 1000 years, but then God let's him go? But, not to worry, then Jesus destroys him once and for all. Why did God create him at all? The answer I've heard is to test people. Great, God proved that most people would fail the test. As if God didn't already know that.
It's kind a spiritual WWF match. So dramatic.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Humans following their senses, greed etc


Attachment to the ego instead of Divine


These stories are figuratively, and useful to educate people in the 'real' world.

Sadly many don't pick up the lesson and instead rather blame others like DEVIL and SATAN.

Pointing fingers is of course easier than taking responsibility, but won't help solving our problems

Beautifully and so wisely and truthfully explained! Wow! You have some real spiritual maturity. Yes we are to blame no one else and the sooner we accept responsibility the sooner things will improve.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Why is this world out of control? Have you ever wondered what could be the reason for all the problems we’re experiencing? Pollution, health, the economy, the weather, …. just to name a few.

You may say that humans are to blame. To a degree, I agree. Do you believe that someone could, or is promoting chaos, from behind the scenes? I believe so!

Who controls this world? Many may say that it is God. Which God are we talking about? Is it the God who created everything, false gods or is it the one who really controls this world? This is what I believe.

1 John 5:19 states in the New World Translation
… , but the whole world is lying in [power of the] wicked one.

Who is the wicked one? Please picture what Revelation 12:7-9 describes in the New World Translation.

And war broke out in heaven: Michael (Jesus) and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called DEVIL and SATAN, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.

The real trouble maker is exposed.
The world is no more or no less out of control today compared to any past time.
 

Messianic Israelite

Active Member
Why is this world out of control? Have you ever wondered what could be the reason for all the problems we’re experiencing? Pollution, health, the economy, the weather, …. just to name a few.

You may say that humans are to blame. To a degree, I agree. Do you believe that someone could, or is promoting chaos, from behind the scenes? I believe so!

Who controls this world? Many may say that it is God. Which God are we talking about? Is it the God who created everything, false gods or is it the one who really controls this world? This is what I believe.

1 John 5:19 states in the New World Translation
… , but the whole world is lying in [power of the] wicked one.

Who is the wicked one? Please picture what Revelation 12:7-9 describes in the New World Translation.

And war broke out in heaven: Michael (Jesus) and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called DEVIL and SATAN, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.

The real trouble maker is exposed.

Hi Revelation 21:4. Good afternoon. You are right of course. The mighty one of this world is indeed Satan and the spirit which the children of disobedience have is different from the spirit that comes through obedience (Ephesians 2:2). People want to blame natural catastrophes on global warming, but no-one wants to accept that Yahweh has always used nature, or 'the earth' (Genesis 6:13) to punish inhabitants for violating His Law. Therefore, immediately in this day and age when catastrophe happens the question isn't "let's self-examine and consider our ways", but "let's pour more money in to green initiatives". Money has become the mighty one of this world and apparently has all the solutions to the problems. Therefore the people continue to become more and more wicked. They have used global warming to deflect any inclination to examine and humble ourselves. People have rejected the fact that Yahweh is in control and are fretting frantically over global warming, just as Proverbs 19:3 says.

Might I point out that there was a 7 year famine in the time of Joseph in Biblical times, but I fear should something like that happen in our day, people would immediately claim global warming. What about all the famines that have been recorded through history before industrialization? Does anyone consider these things? All the green initiatives in the world won't stop judgment being poured from heaven. They are some things that will be happening in the end of the age which have nothing whatsoever to do with global warming, such as increased solar activity and a higher incidence of earthquakes. But will the people see this as Yahweh speaking, or will they come up with some other excuse as to what the problem may be.

Don't get me wrong, I believe that we should invest in green energy, but even some green energy has it's disadvantages. You can do a search online on the dark side of renewable energy. But renewable energy sources are natural forces that are strongly dependent on the weather conditions. Therefore, when you have bad weather conditions, renewable energy technologies such as solar cells will be of less use. What kind of weather conditions will we be having in the end of the age and then tell me whether these renewable energy technologies will really be the answer. This world is out of control because it has rejected Yahshua, the light of this world (John 9:5), therefore the people are stumbling in the darkness. They reject Yahweh's Law, which Yahshua stood for. Most people hate the Law of Yahweh and claim those who keep it are 'judaizers' when Yahshua our Savior was all for the Law of Yahweh as we read in Matthew 5:17-20. This is why there is so much confusion and darkness in this world today because Yahshua has been rejected even by Chr-stianity.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I find some people think these last days of badness on Earth is the 'end times' for Earth.
Rather, it is the end times or last days for badness on Earth - 2 Timothy 3:1-5,13
We are nearing Jesus' coming Glory Time as found at Matthew 25:31-34,37.
The figurative humble ' sheep' (people Revelation 7:9,14) can remain alive on Earth and be here on Earth to see calendar Day One of Jesus' coming thousand-year governmental reign over Earth when even ' enemy death ' will be No more on Earth - 1 Corinthians 15:24-26; Isaiah 25:8.
So, it should be No wonder why we are all invited to pray to God for Jesus to come !
Come and to undo all the traumatic process with struggle and pain we now have on Earth.
Come and bring ' healing ' to earth's nations as mentioned at Revelation 22:2
" Corinthians 15:24-26, Matthew 25:31-34,37, Revelation 7:9,14, Revelation 22:2 "

The verses " Corinthians 15:24-26, Matthew 25:31-34,37, Revelation 7:9,14, Revelation 22:2 " quoted by one in one's post are not from (Jesus) Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah, please:

Holy Bible King James Version (Red Letter Edition)
The Roman Catholic Holy Bible with the words of Jesus in red.
World Messianic Bible

Right?

Regards
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Why is this world out of control? Have you ever wondered what could be the reason for all the problems we’re experiencing? Pollution, health, the economy, the weather, …. just to name a few.

You may say that humans are to blame. To a degree, I agree. Do you believe that someone could, or is promoting chaos, from behind the scenes? I believe so!

Who controls this world? Many may say that it is God. Which God are we talking about? Is it the God who created everything, false gods or is it the one who really controls this world? This is what I believe.

1 John 5:19 states in the New World Translation
… , but the whole world is lying in [power of the] wicked one.

Who is the wicked one? Please picture what Revelation 12:7-9 describes in the New World Translation.

And war broke out in heaven: Michael (Jesus) and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called DEVIL and SATAN, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.

The real trouble maker is exposed.

This is one explanation from my religion.

The weakening of the pillars of religion hath strengthened the hands of the ignorant and made them bold and arrogant. Verily I say, whatsoever hath lowered the lofty station of religion hath increased the waywardness of the wicked, and the result cannot be but anarchy.

Bahá’u’lláh
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Why is this world out of control? Have you ever wondered what could be the reason for all the problems we’re experiencing? Pollution, health, the economy, the weather, …. just to name a few.

You may say that humans are to blame. To a degree, I agree. Do you believe that someone could, or is promoting chaos, from behind the scenes? I believe so!

Who controls this world? Many may say that it is God. Which God are we talking about? Is it the God who created everything, false gods or is it the one who really controls this world? This is what I believe.

1 John 5:19 states in the New World Translation
… , but the whole world is lying in [power of the] wicked one.

Who is the wicked one? Please picture what Revelation 12:7-9 describes in the New World Translation.

And war broke out in heaven: Michael (Jesus) and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called DEVIL and SATAN, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.

The real trouble maker is exposed.
I tend to think blaming this all on haSatan misses the point that each one of us has the capability to do good or evil on a daily basis.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I tend to think blaming this all on haSatan misses the point that each one of us has the capability to do good or evil on a daily basis.
Yes, we are all free-willled persons and each can choose evil or good.
However, I think since most people want peace it would seem that there should be more peace on earth.
Thus, we can see behind the scene's curtain and find haSatan as the Puppet Master pulling the stings.
- Revelation 12:12; Revelation 12:9
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
The world is no more or no less out of control today compared to any past time.
Before our day I can't find the treat of nuclear power going out of control by evil persons.
To me nuclear threat would mean the world is 'more' out of control compared to the past.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Promises, promises ...
Yes, a promise - Habakkuk 2:3 - and from that writers stand point even if the promise seems to us that the promise tarries that does Not mean God does Not have His set time.

We may hit the snooze button on an alarm clock but that does Not change the time.
It is MAN with MAN's doom-and-gloom Doom's Day Clock with its hands set close to striking the dark midnight hour.
Whereas, in God's Time Table the bright millennial aka thousand-year reign is about to dawn for righteous mankind.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
This is one explanation from my religion.
The weakening of the pillars of religion hath strengthened the hands of the ignorant and made them bold and arrogant. Verily I say, whatsoever hath lowered the lofty station of religion hath increased the waywardness of the wicked, and the result cannot be but anarchy. Bahá’u’lláh

Yes, I too find the weakening of the pillars of religion has increased the waywardness.......
Thus, the result will be the coming Great Tribulation of Revelation 7:14,9
Thankfully, a great crowd of people will be 'saved' (delivered/ rescued) through this Great Tribulation.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
" 1 Corinthians 15:24-26, Matthew 25:31-34,37, Revelation 7:9,14, Revelation 22:2 "
The verses " 1 Corinthians 15:24-26, Matthew 25:31-34,37, Revelation 7:9,14, Revelation 22:2 " quoted by one in one's post are not from (Jesus) Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah, please:
Holy Bible King James Version (Red Letter Edition) The Roman Catholic Holy Bible with the words of Jesus in red.
World Messianic Bible Right? Regards

The original manuscripts have No RED ink for Jesus' recorded words.
ALL Scripture is inspired by God - 2 Timothy 3:16-17 - whether MAN uses red, blue, black, etc. ink.
I find it is Jesus who gives the Revelation at Revelation 1:1
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
Yes, I too find the weakening of the pillars of religion has increased the waywardness.......
Thus, the result will be the coming Great Tribulation of Revelation 7:14,9
Thankfully, a great crowd of people will be 'saved' (delivered/ rescued) through this Great Tribulation.
You do know that Baha'is don't believe in a literal being called Satan. I think they believe Satan to be symbolic of our lower nature.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
The original manuscripts have No RED ink for Jesus' recorded words.
ALL Scripture is inspired by God - 2 Timothy 3:16-17 - whether MAN uses red, blue, black, etc. ink.
I find it is Jesus who gives the Revelation at Revelation 1:1
" 2 Timothy 3:16-17 "

Even the verses " 2 Timothy 3:16-17" are not from (Jesus)Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah, is the notion that all the books of the Pauline NT are inspired by god is from (Jesus)Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah, please? Right?

If yes, then kindly quote from Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah in an unequivocal, straightforward and unambiguous manner, please. Right?

Regards
 
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