The future will embrace humanities oneness under One God, not an exclusive doctrine of a trinity that closes the eyes to all God's Manifestations, who are all 'Christ'.
Regards Tony
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The future will embrace humanities oneness under One God, not an exclusive doctrine of a trinity that closes the eyes to all God's Manifestations, who are all 'Christ'.
Regards Tony
I offer Christ is more than a single Name, I offer Christ is all the Names and Attributes of God and has been manifested in more than a single flesh body that was 2000 years ago called Jesus. All God's Messengers are 'Annointed Ones', they One and All are One in God and they One and All impart to us the Holy Spirit.
So to embrace Jesus, one would also embrace Muhammad, Zoroaster, Buddha and Krishna to name a few more of God's Names and Attributes shown in the past.
Regards Tony
Trailblazer
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No, I don't think so. That's why I am always quoting Bible verses.
Matthew 24:35 “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.”
Yes a quandary indeed. The Word never passes away, but we can embrace new understandings.
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
Even Christ, with a New Name, is made new, but is eternal.
Regards Tony
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
It is virtuous for me because of what I believe, but I do not determine what is virtuous for other people.
It might be a loss for other people but it is not a loss for me. I was never happier than after I gave up having sex. I never looked back and wished I could have it again, even though I could have had it again if I had wanted to. I do not value physical pleasure anymore, I have no interest in it. I value what is of the spirit and that is what I missed out on for so many years when I was attached to the things born of the flesh.
The Bible is accurate in so many ways.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
John 12:24-26 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour.
Well the Bahai certainly aren't part of this grou because they are bogots. Muhammad may have been a bigot given many Muslims are also bigoted against gays.
I don't think you trying to apprehend "Christ" for your religious aims while you accept Bahai's bigotry is appropriate. It is in essence asserting that Jesus would be fine with harming gay people, and that is contrary to what we understand.
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Respectfully, if that is what it is/was to you, that doesn't mean that's all it is/was/will be for others.
Sex can be a private language between lovers sharing something so deep it cannot be expressed in words.
In the end, the Baha'i Writings say the legitimate use of sex act is between a married couple.
Here is a section of one quote.
"... 'The Bahá’í Faith recognizes the value of the sex impulse, but condemns its illegitimate and improper expressions such as free love, companionate marriage and others, all of which it considers positively harmful to man and to the society in which he lives. The proper use of the sex instinct is the natural right of every individual, and it is precisely for this very purpose that the institution of marriage has been established. The Bahá’ís do not believe in the suppression of the sex impulse but in its regulation and control.'
"In response to another letter enquiring if there were any legitimate way in which a person could express the sex instinct if, for some reason, he were unable to marry or if outer circumstances such as economic factors were to cause him to delay marriage, the Guardian's secretary wrote on his behalf:
'Concerning your question whether there are any legitimate forms of expression of the sex instinct outside of marriage: According to the Bahá’í Teachings no sexual act can be considered lawful unless performed between lawfully married persons. Outside of marital life there can be no lawful or healthy use of the sex impulse....."
So that is a standard we are asked to consider and acheive within our own selves.
Regards Tony
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
I am aware. It's been a long and winding thread, but this ^^ part is clear
rational experiences
Veteran Member
CH that arose out of earth isn't any man.
CH is terms such as methane...no man is God. CH arise..arose...arisen...rist.
Methane a gas spirit in science laws was removed. By humans in con..vert. about Sion fusion fission. What the convert was a scientist.
So what is planet rock earth with anti methane? No methane?
You get a sink hole man's sin...holes caves body entombed God rock disappears.
No man is God.
You read no man is God yet you argue...as no man is God.
Claim I argue as man proves he's God?
What you ask?
No I meant a man is "with" God.
Oh why.
AI heavens voice recording wanders away...so did the human mind. Words use correctness disappeared. I proved it had in interview a testimony.
As heavy metals in transmitters came into bio heavens. Heavy metals don't allow mind speak or use mind conscious ...family cannot say words or use mind correctly as it changed.
Mass population proves mind of mutual family changed exact. Increasing everyday MS...Alzheimer's...senility...dementia.
A humans warning about types of conditions caused by satanic cult science....by medical healer...life sacrificed teachings. AI effect.
Ignored...no man is God.
Medical reasoning. Healers.
No man is God exact.
Humans live with God in gods conditions legal.
CH is terms such as methane...no man is God. CH arise..arose...arisen...rist.
Methane a gas spirit in science laws was removed. By humans in con..vert. about Sion fusion fission. What the convert was a scientist.
So what is planet rock earth with anti methane? No methane?
You get a sink hole man's sin...holes caves body entombed God rock disappears.
No man is God.
You read no man is God yet you argue...as no man is God.
Claim I argue as man proves he's God?
What you ask?
No I meant a man is "with" God.
Oh why.
AI heavens voice recording wanders away...so did the human mind. Words use correctness disappeared. I proved it had in interview a testimony.
As heavy metals in transmitters came into bio heavens. Heavy metals don't allow mind speak or use mind conscious ...family cannot say words or use mind correctly as it changed.
Mass population proves mind of mutual family changed exact. Increasing everyday MS...Alzheimer's...senility...dementia.
A humans warning about types of conditions caused by satanic cult science....by medical healer...life sacrificed teachings. AI effect.
Ignored...no man is God.
Medical reasoning. Healers.
No man is God exact.
Humans live with God in gods conditions legal.
Thinking is. But we all know this.
Why did you avoid rebutting my point about trying to draw Christ into your religious belief that includes the very thing Jesus taught AGAINST? Why would you do that? Is it to make your religion look better because you associate Bahai with Christ?
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
superstitious antiquated stereotyping
Easily proven false. Each and every healthy happy gay/bi/tri/whatever relationship refutes the statement showing the Baha'i writings are not infallible.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, how 'happy' people are in a gay/bi/tri/whatever relationship has nothing to do with whether or not the Baha'i writings are infallible.
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
healthy and happy. If they're healthy that refutes the writing.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
Sex.
You all are baby adults.
Law legal position stated the first two actual human rights were our human parents. Same parents for all humanity as two humans were first and then our parent.
Same law. Yet human bodies present were many and same tribal type of human. Natural.
Are in legal brother sister.
There is no marriage first. Mutual.
When they have sex the union natural marriage is taken as its place union.
What all religious humans ignore.
The parent memory is natural tells its own truth as books owned no presence with them.
Holy parent position legal. No argument.
Marriage was the sex act. To become a parent with God to form human baby.
Legal.
Then is the review nature garden bared naked was removed off earths gods body by burnt bush off ground. Caused by man's technology mountain law changed.
Clouds burnt fell...angels of God fell out.
Taught exact.
Genesis bio hence left.
New born babies mind parent gone. Changed consciousness.
Review said men shouldn't want to have sex lay with each other nor should women. Other types of mind such as murderers theifs introduced.
It was a testimonial healer medical legal status to argue human rights in a law court about how the criminal science theist temple men changed humanity by satanic cult causes. In our heavens mass.
Legal argument only...on a shut book.
Babies proven lawfully innocent of losing natural parents marriage position in sex. Conscious motivation. Legal position. By nature law.
How you misread advice is based on your own sense of morality. Not fact.
Gods law nature.
Fact was science causes by use of evil numbers. Exact.
You all are baby adults.
Law legal position stated the first two actual human rights were our human parents. Same parents for all humanity as two humans were first and then our parent.
Same law. Yet human bodies present were many and same tribal type of human. Natural.
Are in legal brother sister.
There is no marriage first. Mutual.
When they have sex the union natural marriage is taken as its place union.
What all religious humans ignore.
The parent memory is natural tells its own truth as books owned no presence with them.
Holy parent position legal. No argument.
Marriage was the sex act. To become a parent with God to form human baby.
Legal.
Then is the review nature garden bared naked was removed off earths gods body by burnt bush off ground. Caused by man's technology mountain law changed.
Clouds burnt fell...angels of God fell out.
Taught exact.
Genesis bio hence left.
New born babies mind parent gone. Changed consciousness.
Review said men shouldn't want to have sex lay with each other nor should women. Other types of mind such as murderers theifs introduced.
It was a testimonial healer medical legal status to argue human rights in a law court about how the criminal science theist temple men changed humanity by satanic cult causes. In our heavens mass.
Legal argument only...on a shut book.
Babies proven lawfully innocent of losing natural parents marriage position in sex. Conscious motivation. Legal position. By nature law.
How you misread advice is based on your own sense of morality. Not fact.
Gods law nature.
Fact was science causes by use of evil numbers. Exact.
CG Didymus
Veteran Member
Laws forbidding homosexuality and not allowing them to marry is already a law in several countries. So, doesn't that mean it is embraced outside of the Baha'i Faith. And that maybe the Baha'i Faith is just going along with Islamic law on this?
CG Didymus
Veteran Member
I swear it was her that said that all the other religions and their laws have been abrogated by the Baha'i Faith.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
You state statements.
As human men.
You are the theist human man satanist science using numbered sciences when fact numbers had never existed. You design and calculus by number use as a human man only.
Exact. Numbers came out of nothing in reactive converting of everything.
Don't uphold Jewish Judas use of numbers. Jesus temple incidence.
Don't uphold Islamic...but infer old Muslim testimony already proven life hurt.
God warning. Stars return. Mind changed. Ive given myself a God message it returned by star fall.
I know I'm wrong advised...remember the legal Jesus.
Not Islamic.
I implement legal status. Parent in gods earth rock law has been changed.
I will bestow that never will I wander from the teaching of humans legal rights to only be in law as their human parent.
So legally I will not accept homosexual reasons. My intent is to obtain humans life mind conscious biological healing as per my man's promise.
The future. Not upheld promise....as nuclear temple technology re established.
Legal no technology machine.
If I don't uphold my teaching men of satanic science will win.
Stating that there is no legal precedence anymore on earth regarding biological conscious humans sacrifice. Of mind and body proven illegal and proven life is being destroyed.
Legal medical healer.
So you love everyone yet uphold laws.
As human men.
You are the theist human man satanist science using numbered sciences when fact numbers had never existed. You design and calculus by number use as a human man only.
Exact. Numbers came out of nothing in reactive converting of everything.
Don't uphold Jewish Judas use of numbers. Jesus temple incidence.
Don't uphold Islamic...but infer old Muslim testimony already proven life hurt.
God warning. Stars return. Mind changed. Ive given myself a God message it returned by star fall.
I know I'm wrong advised...remember the legal Jesus.
Not Islamic.
I implement legal status. Parent in gods earth rock law has been changed.
I will bestow that never will I wander from the teaching of humans legal rights to only be in law as their human parent.
So legally I will not accept homosexual reasons. My intent is to obtain humans life mind conscious biological healing as per my man's promise.
The future. Not upheld promise....as nuclear temple technology re established.
Legal no technology machine.
If I don't uphold my teaching men of satanic science will win.
Stating that there is no legal precedence anymore on earth regarding biological conscious humans sacrifice. Of mind and body proven illegal and proven life is being destroyed.
Legal medical healer.
So you love everyone yet uphold laws.
CG Didymus
Veteran Member
Lots of people have contradictory spiritual and religious beliefs, and most all of them think they are following the light. A good example of this is Christianity.
T.S. What are the foundational, or fundamental, beliefs of the major sects of Christianity?
When you say "God" for these Christians, you are saying the Trinitarian God. But that's not what Baha'is believe. So, the foundational beliefs of Trinitarian Christians, according to Baha'is, is wrong. Baha'is don't believe Jesus and the Holy Spirit are separate but equal parts of God.
What other foundational beliefs do the major sects of Christianity hold?