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The AP is reporting that Russian missles have hit Poland, 2 dead

Stevicus

Stevicus

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F1fan said:
Reporting is that an American official said "something did happen", but missles from Russia have landed in Poland killing two people. There has been no confirmation that is was deliberate or accidental. Could this be a game changer? This could be a great excuse for putin to withdraw, blaming missle control or military leadership.

Missles hit a grain processing plant, not a military target, and the dead are civilian.

Of course this means NATO can be involved now, since a member nation was hit. Russia will need to respond quickly with an explanation.


Strikes put Ukraine in darkness; missiles cross into Poland
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I heard about this on the radio earlier today. Looks bad.

I'm reminded of an incident which happened during WW2, some American bombers were on a raid into Germany and accidentally hit a Swiss town. It was an honest mistake, but it did lead to some deaths. The U.S. promised financial compensation.
 
Debater Slayer

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F1fan said:
Reporting is that an American official said "something did happen", but missles from Russia have landed in Poland killing two people. There has been no confirmation that is was deliberate or accidental. Could this be a game changer? This could be a great excuse for putin to withdraw, blaming missle control or military leadership.

Missles hit a grain processing plant, not a military target, and the dead are civilian.

Of course this means NATO can be involved now, since a member nation was hit. Russia will need to respond quickly with an explanation.


Strikes put Ukraine in darkness; missiles cross into Poland
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This deeply worries me. I hope it doesn't lead to a third world war.

What do people here think regarding that? I realize all we can do is speculate at the moment, but does anyone think Russia and NATO could avoid engaging in a war on each other?
 
We Never Know

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F1fan said:
Reporting is that an American official said "something did happen", but missles from Russia have landed in Poland killing two people. There has been no confirmation that is was deliberate or accidental. Could this be a game changer? This could be a great excuse for putin to withdraw, blaming missle control or military leadership.

Missles hit a grain processing plant, not a military target, and the dead are civilian.

Of course this means NATO can be involved now, since a member nation was hit. Russia will need to respond quickly with an explanation.


Strikes put Ukraine in darkness; missiles cross into Poland
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With all the spy satellites/satellites
they should be able to tell/have a good idea where it came from.

"In the US, the Union of Concerned Scientists monitors satellite activity and publishes a public database, which lists at least 49 NRO satellites. That's just a fraction of America's 154 military satellites, and it could be more.

There are others listed as "military / civil" or "military / government," which means, if you count them all together, there are between 339 and 485 military satellites in total. But not all of them need necessarily be spy satellites.

Russia is known to have 71 military satellites, and China 63.

Other countries, such as France, Germany, Italy, India, the UK, Turkey, Mexico, Columbia, Spain, Denmark, and Japan have less than 10 each. France and Germany have the most, with 9 and 7, respectively. That's not including joint operations, where the satellites are run by more than one country.v

https://amp-dw-com.cdn.ampproject.o...satellites-in-an-age-of-space-wars/a-54691887
 
Jayhawker Soule

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Revoltingest said:
Poland deserves to be hit because it's part of NATO, which
is a George Soros operation, & because Ameristan invaded
Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, N Korea, Germany, etc, etc?
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You really need to learn to use <sarcasm> ... </sarcasm> tags, if only to aid those who do not get Revoltingestian without subtitles.
 
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F1fan

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Stevicus said:
It could have been an accident, not intentional. But I'm sure NATO will have investigators all over this.
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I think this is the question. If it was intentional just to see what NATO would do, but claimed to be accidental, how would we know? This would be a way to test whethr NATO would knee jerk a response and Russia would defend itself, perhaps with a nuclear weapon. It's all plausible, Russia's troops are surely under a lot of stress and pressure. I would suspect an accident, but being putin I would treat it as deliberate.
 
Father Heathen

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Debater Slayer said:
This deeply worries me. I hope it doesn't lead to a third world war.

What do people here think regarding that? I realize all we can do is speculate at the moment, but does anyone think Russia and NATO could avoid engaging in a war on each other?
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The onus for peace is completely on Russia, and I don't see that happening as long as Putin remains in power. Russia is already losing to Ukraine, so if NATO gets involved it will be a swift and sound defeat.
 
Nimos

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F1fan said:
Reporting is that an American official said "something did happen", but missles from Russia have landed in Poland killing two people. There has been no confirmation that is was deliberate or accidental. Could this be a game changer? This could be a great excuse for putin to withdraw, blaming missle control or military leadership.

Missles hit a grain processing plant, not a military target, and the dead are civilian.

Of course this means NATO can be involved now, since a member nation was hit. Russia will need to respond quickly with an explanation.


Strikes put Ukraine in darkness; missiles cross into Poland
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It makes me think how weird things are. If I take a car and drive too fast and accidentally kill someone, I get thrown in jail. However, if some military personnel during a war launches missiles and kills innocent people by accident, which is not part of the war, nothing will happen.
 
Stevicus

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RestlessSoul

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Altfish said:
Easily said, but how do you do it?
You cannot give the aggressor any ground or you'll have China invading Taiwan
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Dialogue, and a willingness to compromise, is the only way to end any conflict. That’s pretty much a universal law of human relations.
 
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