Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I think its all just a show. No way are those millionaires and billionaires in politics are going to ever tax themselves no matter what party they belong to.
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
So do Democrats.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Nothing truer can be said.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
They are all silly. A regular circus
tytlyf
Not Religious
Democrats want corporate taxes. High corporate taxes.
Republicans want ZERO corporate tax.
Only 1 party is against raising the minimum wage. (Republican corporate policy)
Only 1 party is against affordable healthcare (Republican corporate policy)
Only 1 party is against regulations and oversight (Republican corporate policy)
Only 1 party is against unions (Republican corporate policy)
.....it goes on and on.
If it's good for workers and the middle class, Republicans are against it.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Really? Show me where it's being enacted right now.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
But some circuses are a significantly bigger ****show than others.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Givin your avatar, I believe you.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
All I need is a bible in one hand and a flag in the other, and I would have republicans licking my big red clown shoes.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Don't forget your gas guzzling monster class clown car!All I need is a bible in one hand and a flag in the other, and I would have republicans licking my big red clown shoes.
cladking
Well-Known Member
So which party was it that didn't rescind Reagan's elimination of taxes on rich people? Which party is it that hasn't instituted term limits. Which party hasn't restored citizenship to individual Americans. Which party doesn't eliminate spending by the other. Which part isn't fixing social security. Which party is changing laws to support the wealthy to the detriment of all.
We're in a handbasket to hell with one party pulling and the other pushing. They feed off one another. The party that is out of power still has high paying cushy jobs in Washington.
The system is rigged, heads they win tails we lose. The polarization of Americans is caused by a one party system that represents only the wealthy. Americans are fiscally conservative and socially liberal. We want abortion and we want low taxes. We want efficient government that is no larger than necessary. Neither party represent the American people but they both represent the wealthy.
cladking
Well-Known Member
No.
The minimum wage is a joke. Most people should be paid a living wage if they are actually contributing to the company. Minimum wage should be for fruit pickers and wholly unskilled labor where the work isn't too hard. But both parties have brought in foreign slaves to do the real work at less than minimum wage.
No party can provide efficient and inexpensive healthcare so long as the insurance and legal leeches are firmly attached to it. We either fix it by making people pay their own bills (it could be done gradually over time) or we nationalize it. We must pour salt on the leeches.
Much of the regulation and oversight is principally to milk corporations for bribes and to gain control.
Unions are obsolete. They no longer represent employees so much as themselves.
Everything is a smokescreen to hide the fact that this is a one party system; A party of the rich, for the rich, and by the rich. It is no longer a level playing field.
The robber barons of the 19th century used graft and corruption to get wealthy and they left behind railroads, factories, and dams. Today's robber barons use graft and corruption and leave behind nothing but destruction and shattered dreams. In the 19th century anyone who was competent and sharp could become a robber baron. Today only the well connected need apply.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
It would be an EV, but I would hang truck nuts from the back of it as a concession to conservative tastes.
There's this marvelous invention called a search engine. You can search for "increase minimum wage", for example. If you're not willing to spend 30 seconds to do that, so be it.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
PureX
Veteran Member
Yes, in words, but not in deeds.When these issues come to an actual vote in the legislatures, democrats and republicans have both voted against minimum wage raises, against universal health care, against corporate, Wall Street, and banking oversight, and against worker's rights. And Joe Biden is a classic example of this. He has voted against all of these things MANY TIMES throughout his long career as a political toady for the wealthy corporate interests that have paid to keep him in office, and paid for all his perks while was there.
wellwisher
Well-Known Member
Doesn't Big Government also work via trickle down? The Government commandeers tax dollars. It does not earn this money but takes it by force; IRS. It then borrows more money on top of that. It then trickles this down based on political advantages and campaign contributions. The way government trickle down can be stopped, if we cut taxes, so more money stays where it is made. We need to stop the steal to avoid defect spending trickle down, which does not work.
Why isn't the government making money for its citizens, instead of steal it from others who make the money; taxpayers? Public servants should not be allowed to pick your pocket or extort you. There are too many people who are attempting to blame the victims of this stealing. A large negative rate of return is not made better by stealing more taxes, from the more efficient people, who get a positive rate of return. It is like a man who marries a trophy wife who cannot balance her check book, and has no clue how much effort it takes to earn the money she blows through on her whims.
One nonsense mantra, is what is called, fair share. Why does fair share target only some, but does not apply to all? It is not fair to just target some and give the Leftist base a pass. Fair means everyone has to pull their weight, with those with more weight, pulling harder. Since nobody has zero weight, we all need to pull in ways one can pull. Some people may not have money, but they have time.
This mantra is really about stealing and then allowing a bunch of incompetent politicians to waste these resource as they trickle it down for their political benefit. Public servants should be at the bottom of the food chain, or else they will try to become the public masters, instead of the public servants. Putting the least competent at the top of the trickle down is a major problem.
How does notion of the tax payers, paying off student loans, they did not make, become their fair share? This is example of the Left, sugar coating stealing, via some type of empathy and guilt manipulation. It also hides those who benefited by the original steal from the student; universities. Servants that waste precious tax payer resources need to be fired, not rewarded with more tax Monet, unless they believe they are the master and not the servant, using another word game to hide that fact.
Don't get me wrong, government can be useful but when it cannot manage to break even or turn a profit; value added, is becomes more of a problem than a solution. Any further attempt to steal, more, should be nipped in the bud until they can demonstrate more competence.
Say you hired people to do work on you house. You expect to get your money's worth and will pay them a fair wage. But say they take advantage of you, eating your food and making it more expensive than the value they add; deficits. Do you continue to keep them working by pumping even more money into these thieves, or do you stop paying them until you can get a competent and fair deal? The Left has been fooled into think these incompetent shake down artists are like Robin Hood. But Robin Hood took from the government who was over taxing the poor, so the poor could get back what was theirs. One more misdirect by the thieves.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Let's see the vote count on the latest minimum wage bill. We'll just pick one and go from there.
The point is that 1 party stands in the way of progress compared to the other.
As you can see from the vote tallies, all Republicans voted against raising the minimum wage. This has been their MO for decades.
Who voted against minimum wage increase? | wusa9.com
PureX
Veteran Member
Oh sure, the dems will vote for raising the minimum wage when they know the republicans will stop it from happening. And then they'll blame it all on the republicans. They do that all the time. But take a look back to when the democrats had a full majority in the house and senate and see how they voted on these issues back then, when their votes would have mattered, and guess what, they all voted just like republicans. Not just once, but many times. Look at Biden's voting record. He voted many times not to raise the minimum wage. And he voted many times against any version of national health care. He voted for every war or military action that was ever proposed. He voted against legislation that was trying to stop the legalized bribery of the congress and senate. He voted in favor of creating a big pharma monopoly in the U.S.,.
Vote after vote after vote, Biden and most of the other democrats in the legislature took the corporate bribe money and voted exactly the way their corporate sponsors told them to. Decade after decade after decade. Don't fool yourself into thinking that they aren't just as corrupt and controlled by corporate bribery as the republicans are. Because they are.