Did you miss my post about the federal law that allows that?
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Is this stealing?
- Thread starter an anarchist
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Did you miss my post about the federal law that allows that?
InChrist
Free4ever
If the food is going in the trash, then I would not consider eating it to be stealing. I agree with others who have already indicated that it should be donated to those in need. Now, if such food was going to a food bank or homeless shelter and you took it...that would be stealing.
Yes. I did and just because federal law allows it. Doesn't mean States can't make the requirements more stringent.
stevecanuck
Well-Known Member
Does the restaurant still own that food? Didn't they sell it to a customer who then abandoned it?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
The OP was not clear about the food. I got the idea that they were leftovers from the kitchen. I could be wrong.
stevecanuck
Well-Known Member
Yes, I see your point.
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
You're lowering the national figure 
"While the world wastes about 1.4 billion tons of food every year, the United States discards more food than any other country in the world: nearly 40 million tons — 80 billion pounds — every year."
- Food Waste in America in 2022: Statistics & Facts | RTS
"It is estimated that between 720 and 811 million people in the world faced hunger in 2020."
- Food | United Nations
"While the world wastes about 1.4 billion tons of food every year, the United States discards more food than any other country in the world: nearly 40 million tons — 80 billion pounds — every year."
- Food Waste in America in 2022: Statistics & Facts | RTS
"It is estimated that between 720 and 811 million people in the world faced hunger in 2020."
- Food | United Nations
stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Easy from Spiritual POV
Sai Baba says "don' t waste food, food is God"
Hence
The owner tries to make you an accomplice in his crime
Heyo
Veteran Member
Of course it is stealing.
RFers are a bunch of socialist commies that they don't realize that you are stealing the businesses opportunity. If you eat their trash for free, you have no need to buy a meal from them. That's how a capitalist thinks.
It's a sin to waste it.
If you take it, it is not a sin.
If you take it, it is not a sin.
I am a socialist...one of the few...I guess.
Sedim Haba
Outa here... bye-bye!
I can remember as a teen working at McD's we would give the leftover food at shift end to
the local first responders, the cops and firemen. A squad would stop by. The rationale was
having a cop around at closing was a good thing, that would be the perfect time to rob us.
Thing is, after a while, huge quantities of burgers and such was cooked, just before close.
To give the guys more food. Management learned about this and stopped the whole thing.
I suspect that might be the case for you, free food might generate 'extra waste' somehow.
Did your boss say why you can’t eat it? He could be up for insurance claims if employees ate leftover foods and got food poisoning.? There may be health laws the owner is bound to to protect his workers? I would be more concerned as a manager that you get ill from eating food which has been possibly contaminated. So it might not just be a stealing issue but you could catch Covid or even aids?
an anarchist
Your local anarchist.
What I think it is is that the company doesn't want to create an incentive for waste. If cooks know they can eat any "extra" food, then they might always accidently cook extra food.
Edit: shadow wolf beat me to it
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Yes, and they have to treat all workers equally. So even though there is no way that you can force the cooks to make extra the company will still say that you cannot benefit from their errors.
From the store’s perspective it is stealing. They can set their own policies within legal limits. They could terminate you but I don’t think they can prosecute. I have the same issue where I work, and I’ve written about it. Every day we fill a huge plastic receptacle with unsold packaged food. Until now no one has been willing to pick it up and distribute it. My new manager said we’re about to start boxing it up and distributing it. I’m happy about that. Back to the stealing, I think it’s unconscionable that a business would rather trash perfectly good food and consider it theft instead of eating it. But as long as I’m an employee I have to abide by their rules. If they call it stealing I have to consider it as such.
In many jurisdictions, if you own object X, and clearly abandon your title to X eg by throwing it into a rubbish receptacle then anyone who lawfully comes into possession of X can treat it as their own. Of course, if they throw it into a charity collection point instead, they've obviously intended to pass their title to the charity, which is a different thing to abandoning the title.
Assuming the rules where you are work something like that ─ they may not ─ I suspect that the bosses here are continuing to assert title to your particular X by requiring it to be disposed of in a particular way.
The legal position might be different if you throw X out in the manner required, then after you've finished your shift and left, you then return and take X from where you threw it out in accordance with the bosses' directions ─ and no trespass or other unlawful act is involved.
And health laws may apply too eg require disposal in a particular way and no other.
Or it might all be otherwise, of course. Next time you're drinking with your lawyer, try to bring the conversation round to the subject and see what she says.
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Nimos
Well-Known Member
It's probably something like that.
A few years ago France passed a law that bans supermarkets from throwing away or destroying food. It must be offered for donation.
There is no such law for restaurants but they are following suit off their own back.
There is no such law for restaurants but they are following suit off their own back.
No, I don't think it is stealing. Actually, legally, if you throw something into the garbage, it is no longer theirs (If I am not mistaken)
It's a shame that the owner doesn't have a more compassionate heart.