Father Heathen
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So guys just randomly decide to force themselves to like other guys for no reason, especially in societies were they're maligned, marginalized, or persecuted?
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Who gave you right to be member of LGBT+ and make abortions?
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But that is the point. Bob forces himself. Bob is not forced by someone else who believes God gave him the right to shove kale down Bob's throat.
Do you believe God gave you the right to force Bob to eat vegetables?
(Please note this post is merely to put forth general relevant information.)
Ironically enough under Hinduism the alphabet soup folks are usually considered to be under the explicit protection of the goddess Kali. The slayer of evil and protector of the innocent. Though once she is angered, none are safe. Not really a deity one wishes to offend, really.
So I mean, in some traditions it is seen as an affront to God to mistreat or otherwise harm people who are gay. Just saying
Though Ravana, who you quote, is not always considered wholly evil in Hindu traditions. That’s usually seen as a mistranslation by Abrahamic authors who had a hard time with the more “grey” elements of Dharmic thought (with regards to ethics and even morality to an extent.)
With regards to abortion, doesn't the OT specifically specify that life begins at the first breath?
Interesting that Christians later inferred something different from their interpretations of God’s word (depending on the sect they belong to.)
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Not even wrong.
CharmingOwl
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In this case, which authority can grant us the right to be LGBT and get abortions?
It contains way, way more bodies than that and even when they're not pregnant. Aren't you forgetting about the egg bodies? Those are humans too. And every woman kills hundreds of these people. For men it is even worse. They are murderers to the tune of millions. Why does your god allow this?
LGBT and abortion have nothing to do with each other.
Hijras are still treated like garbage in India, though.
No, there are just human and civil rights, and they are man-given. If gods exist, they are uninvolved in enumerating and enforcing rights.
Then you'll need him to guarantee them for you. Where is he?
That's probably correct, but it's also true that most murderers are likely theists, since as believers like to point out, most of the world fits into that demographic.
Now you're starting to understand where rights come from. Without those police and the laws men wrote directing and empowering them, theists are as vulnerable as zebras on the savanna.
Here's more of an indication that you know where your rights come from.
And more. You do know who gives you the right to drive, don't you? The same people that can take it away.
Much more than that. Every human body contains countless bacteria. From More than half your body is not human - BBC News (sleep tight):
More than half of your body is not human, say scientists. Human cells make up only 43% of the body's total cell count. The rest are microscopic colonists. Understanding this hidden half of ourselves - our microbiome - is rapidly transforming understanding of diseases from allergy to Parkinson's. The field is even asking questions of what it means to be "human" and is leading to new innovative treatments as a result. "They are essential to your health," says Prof Ruth Ley, the director of the department of microbiome science at the Max Planck Institute, "your body isn't just you".
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
The Great God Pan Within me (beast, man, and god) gave me the right to sexuality and the conscience to choose wisely.
Curious George
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What exactly does it mean to exist?
Yes, @JDMS you are quite correct -- it is gibberish.
@questfortruth's first sentence states, "There are two gods." That implies there EXIST two gods. His second sentence goes on to say that one of them exists, and the other doesn't. This denies sentence number one, so we are already in a contradiction. And it is not helped in the slightest by the statement that "presence and existence are two different notions," since in the context in which he writes, presence implies existence and cannot do otherwise.
Sadly true. Not even hindus think Humans are good at obeying God lol
Then again, that seems to be a common theme among religions in general lol
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Then how can there be two Gods? If satan isn't real then why didn't you say so, and also acknowledge all the other gods in human history, some 4000+ on the list?
Well thanks for the lack of clarity in this factless statement.
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
No one gives us the right. We just take it.
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stvdv
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You start off with Hinduism
Hinduism entails "follow Dharmic life"
You end up with Christianity
Christianity entails "be non judgmental"
You follow neither, right?
rational experiences
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A human adult first.
Law in nature is first non arguable.
A human man adult named a brother and a human woman adult named a sister.
Brother sister named mutual pair but adults.
First human many humans owned the same DNA type first human tribe. Same everywhere. No migration involved.
Laws of nature.
No baby is even involved legally says law.
Human rights.
Adult lived adult died.
Question exact in legality. Should they have had sex to form a baby?
Question asked by reading about life's suffering by mass population all human babies. Baby life has endured a huge amount of pain and suffering.
Human rights says I did not ask to be conceived. Of its adult choice. The baby human. Known advice as adult.
Now who are you to argue in human life's sufferings as it is not just physical but mental emotional pain and suffering.
Why adults take their own life.
As life is real you know and exact by its human conditions.
So you ask men. If I wanted to remain a virgin. As my sex part is sealed a hymen. Notice you put your word in my body type explained...hy men...men strual. Private women sister body.
Proving you brother by penis thought about my body type yourself.
Would you control your man desire?
No. He'd even rape the woman his sister.
So he writes as many excuses as he could about wo man...wo men being wrong. As he was wrong.
Yet in every word there he is lying.
Is why abortion was granted a legal position as even when women say no to sex you rape her anyway. In life marriage young girls old women who don't want sex anymore.
Legal reasoning in life's historical review. What legal means rights.
Law in nature is first non arguable.
A human man adult named a brother and a human woman adult named a sister.
Brother sister named mutual pair but adults.
First human many humans owned the same DNA type first human tribe. Same everywhere. No migration involved.
Laws of nature.
No baby is even involved legally says law.
Human rights.
Adult lived adult died.
Question exact in legality. Should they have had sex to form a baby?
Question asked by reading about life's suffering by mass population all human babies. Baby life has endured a huge amount of pain and suffering.
Human rights says I did not ask to be conceived. Of its adult choice. The baby human. Known advice as adult.
Now who are you to argue in human life's sufferings as it is not just physical but mental emotional pain and suffering.
Why adults take their own life.
As life is real you know and exact by its human conditions.
So you ask men. If I wanted to remain a virgin. As my sex part is sealed a hymen. Notice you put your word in my body type explained...hy men...men strual. Private women sister body.
Proving you brother by penis thought about my body type yourself.
Would you control your man desire?
No. He'd even rape the woman his sister.
So he writes as many excuses as he could about wo man...wo men being wrong. As he was wrong.
Yet in every word there he is lying.
Is why abortion was granted a legal position as even when women say no to sex you rape her anyway. In life marriage young girls old women who don't want sex anymore.
Legal reasoning in life's historical review. What legal means rights.