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lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
Deut. 32.8 said:
Not only NetDoc.
At least "Pat McGroin" was more clever. :p


I must say tho, that the percentage of trolls to serious posters here is mercifully low. How does Rex do it?
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
lilithu said:
I look at his original post and all I see is a TROLL. But ya'll are taking him seriously. Apparently, only NetDoc has the same assessment. <shrug>

My first reaction was to delete this thread as it is obviously fishing for a fight, but I think I'll leave it for now. The fact that the members of the forum are not stooping to the level of the OP makes me proud of you guys. :)

We don't ever want to censor anyone's opinion, even if it seems offensive. And I think it would do everyone some good to learn how to deal with people who say offensive things just to start a fight. In my experience it's best to ignore them. They only want attention, you don't give it to them, they go away.

We take trolling and spamming very seriously. Anyone who comes here just to engage in such actions is dealt with as quickly as possible. If anyone ever suspects a troll or spammer is at work, don't respond to them, simply report the post and the mod team will take care of it. ;)
 

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
Maize said:
My first reaction was to delete this thread as it is obviously fishing for a fight, but I think I'll leave it for now. The fact that the members of the forum are not stooping to the level of the OP makes me proud of you guys. :)
Agreed - both on your decision not to delete and your assessment of the forum members. I don't think that I could respond quite so calmly to him if I thought he was totally serious. Pah is so cool! :)

Maize said:
We take trolling and spamming very seriously. Anyone who comes here just to engage in such actions is dealt with as quickly as possible. If anyone ever suspects a troll or spammer is at work, don't respond to them, simply report the post and the mod team will take care of it. ;)
Oh but sometimes it's fun to play with trolls!
 

Doc

Space Chief
Judas, do you believe in Christ? If so what of his teachings?

Love your enemies!

Pray for those who persecute you!

Why hate! What good does it do to kill those who are different or of different beliefs than you. Is it there fault that they were perhaps were raised with a family did not care or perhaps no family at all. Jesus could have and perhaps should have killed many people when he came. The Romans, Tax Collectors, etc...Yet he forgave them and instead of killing his intruders he reached out to help them. I am of the belief that not fighting is sometimes more courageous than fighting.

And of poverty...Jesus did not have an occupation/job, he owned nothing, walked with tax collectors and prostitutes. (Get a job) Would you tell Jesus that?

And why do you wish to supress those who are attracted to the same sex. How does that possibly affect you? I suggest reading the Gospels
 
pah said:
I think it stranger and more inconsistent to have a sex change and despise homosexuality. Without the sex change, this person would have had the same "apparent" orientation as a homosexual. You would think that would generate some understanding.

Bob
The acceptance of sex changes but not homosexuality in some cultures comes from a belief in clear lines between the sexes. Homosexuality blurs these lines, but a person with a sex change fits into a well-defined sex after the change.
 

Judas

Member
i find it offensive that you view me as a "troll"

you seen incapable of having a debate where one person has radical opinions compared to your own.
my post is probably saying what a whole load of people are thinking, step out of the PC world
 

Judas

Member
fragmentsofdreams said:
The acceptance of sex changes but not homosexuality in some cultures comes from a belief in clear lines between the sexes. Homosexuality blurs these lines, but a person with a sex change fits into a well-defined sex after the change.
indeed, including my own


at this point i would like to appologise for any offence caused but this thread
 

Judas

Member
Seyorni said:
If it's debate you want you need to explain the reasoning behind your opinions.
homos (gays), personally i think this is wrong, my family were totally against homos, so from a early age i have been bought up with this beleif. it is also ruled against in the bible.
incest, i dont have a problem with this, if a man and a woman love each other then what is the problem? if they are brother and sister, does that stop then from having a loving relationship?
death penalty, if someone murders someone then surely they should be murdered, an eye for a eye a tooth for a tooth
sex changes, this is correct, i actually had one myself. this is down to self choice, if a personj isnt happy with their sex they why using modern technology should they not have the right to change?
drug addicts, i was addicted once, they need as much help and support as they can get.
working women (whores), this is wrong, women (and men) should only have sex in a loving relationship
Gay priests, this is wrong, kill them, jesus ruled against them so why should they be allowed?
Poverty, get a job, the only way out of poverty is to break the cycle of poverty, the only way to do that is to get a job and work your way out. people cant expect the state to help them and continously pay for their survival, imagine if we all did that
iraq, kill them all! terrorists in general, i know what goes on in Iraq, as i live in close proximity to it. i can tell you first hand they are a lot of terrorists
female vicars, anything with two breasts is great, being a man of course im going to think this.
politicians, lying ********, every politician i know (especially in Kabul) has lied to their people, this is my own personal experience
George bush, christ has returned, his foresight and courage is making the world a safer place
Lethal firearms, living in Kabul, i have many, to defend myself from theft and to protect myself in the streets.
assissanations, some are correct (J.F.K), however the murdering of innocent people is wrong.
The Pope, what a puppet, get someone whos not about to die. young christains need a figure head to inspire them, a old wrinkley man isnt goign to do that.
 

anders

Well-Known Member
Just in case the OP was serious,

homos (gays), are humans like all of us.
incest, i dont have a problem with this: neither had Abraham or Lot.
death penalty is atrocious and should not be applied in any country wishing to be accepted in the 21 th C.
sex changes, this is correct, i actually had one myself No prob with me.
drug addicts, i was addicted once Drug addicts should be ground to fish fodder. If the RSPCA allows it.
working women are working people. So what?
Gay priests are humans. Same standards applicable as for all of us. We have to follow the way we are "created".
Poverty, get a job Tell that to a person who never had the chance to get an education.
iraq, kill them all! A bit too harsh for me. The US invaders are terrorists in general and insurgents (read a dictionary!) and should go home at once.
female vicars, like their male counterparts, should realize that there is no God, and get into another profession.
politicians, lying ******** may be correct for the USA. Swedes are generally very honest.
George bush is what US haters have been praying for.
Lethal firearms, living in Kabul, i have many, but in civilized countries, they should be restricted to the armed forces and the police.
assissanations are atrocious, like the death penalty and pointless invasions of foreign countries.
The Pope can't be described as a puppet.
 

jewscout

Religious Zionist
judas said:
homos (gays), personally i think this is wrong, my family were totally against homos, so from a early age i have been bought up with this beleif. it is also ruled against in the bible.
incest, i dont have a problem with this, if a man and a woman love each other then what is the problem? if they are brother and sister, does that stop then from having a loving relationship?
But incest is prohibited in the bible as well:
Leviticus 18:6-10, 18:12-18
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
Judas said:
iraq, kill them all! terrorists in general, i know what goes on in Iraq, as i live in close proximity to it.



You have many controversial views, Judas. I don't see one I agree with. Your profile says you are a Christain (although I think you mean Christian). Do you think these views are the views Jesus, the Prince of Peace and Love, would hold today?
 

Judas

Member
homos (gays), are humans like all of us. indeed thay are
incest, i dont have a problem with this: neither had Abraham or Lot.
death penalty is atrocious and should not be applied in any country wishing to be accepted in the 21 th C. then should murder be accepted? something needs to be done about this
sex changes, this is correct, i actually had one myself No prob with me.
drug addicts, i was addicted once Drug addicts should be ground to fish fodder. If the RSPCA allows it. drugs provide a way for people in bad situations
working women are working people. So what? sex is the physical union between a man and a woman
Gay priests are humans. Same standards applicable as for all of us. We have to follow the way we are "created".
Poverty, get a job Tell that to a person who never had the chance to get an education. i didnt mean a job requiring a education, theres always a demand for labourers
iraq, kill them all! A bit too harsh for me. The US invaders are terrorists in general and insurgents (read a dictionary!) and should go home at once. i know what goes on in iraq from first hand experience
female vicars, like their male counterparts, should realize that there is no God, and get into another profession.
politicians, lying ******** may be correct for the USA. Swedes are generally very honest.
George bush is what US haters have been praying for. fair enough, i havent met every politician. but in my experience they are never tell the truth
Lethal firearms, living in Kabul, i have many, but in civilized countries, they should be restricted to the armed forces and the police. then are armed burglers acceptable?? do we not have the right to defend ourselfs?
assissanations are atrocious, like the death penalty and pointless invasions of foreign countries.
The Pope can't be described as a puppet.y not? he is incapable of doing anything for himself, he cant even walk properly.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
The trouble with extreme positions is that they are ultimately boring. I think that's because they are not usually based on much in the way of logic or reason. Since they are not usally based on much in the way of logic or reason, there is very little of any great interest that one can learn from them.
 

Judas

Member
Maize said:


You have many controversial views, Judas. I don't see one I agree with. Your profile says you are a Christain (although I think you mean Christian). Do you think these views are the views Jesus, the Prince of Peace and Love, would hold today?
do you thik that jesus would agree with religious extremists? stealing planes and crashing them into buildings? people who do this in my opinion are the servants of the devil, therefore the natural enemies of jesus. im sure jesus wasnt a pacifist. and im also not saying that the americans are some form of godly army.
 
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