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What Will Happen if Republicans Take over Congress?

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Historically, the president's party has done worse in midterm elections than the other party, so a Republican takeover of the Senate and House is not out of the question this year. Some projections also predict that even if one chamber of Congress could go either way, the other one will still go to Republicans. For example:

2022 Election Forecast: Ratings, Predictions & Key Races

Setting aside any hyperbole about a "red wave" or "blue wave" as if either would be a panacea for the country's issues—a type of hyperbole that has become an increasingly prominent feature of the polarized climate of American politics—what do you realistically think will happen if Republicans take control of both chambers of Congress? Would a Republican takeover of Congress tip the 2024 presidential election in their favor or against them, for example?
The rich will continue to become richer. The love of most will become cold towards one another in lieu of the love for capitalism
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
Historically, the president's party has done worse in midterm elections than the other party, so a Republican takeover of the Senate and House is not out of the question this year. Some projections also predict that even if one chamber of Congress could go either way, the other one will still go to Republicans. For example:

2022 Election Forecast: Ratings, Predictions & Key Races

Setting aside any hyperbole about a "red wave" or "blue wave" as if either would be a panacea for the country's issues—a type of hyperbole that has become an increasingly prominent feature of the polarized climate of American politics—what do you realistically think will happen if Republicans take control of both chambers of Congress? Would a Republican takeover of Congress tip the 2024 presidential election in their favor or against them, for example?
Midterms are often the "brakes" that voters put on perceived overreach or blowback. Plus midterms are "local". Preaching fear and the end of democracy has been a part of politics for a long time in America.

Ironically the rise in popularity of socialist ideology and rebellion in American culture led to a response from the "right" which ended up reversing gains.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Must disagree with your assumptions in post #6
But I enjoy your tounge-in-cheek assumptions
The risks in that post range in probability.
But they're based upon things I read from Pub politicians.
Note that Justice Thomas specifically wanted to re-consider
the rights to gay marriage & contraceptives.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Some risks of Republicans gaining more power....
- National ban on abortion.
- National ban on contraception.
- National ban on gay marriage.
- National ban on minors gender transitioning.
- Ending military support for Ukraine.
- Increased Christian theocratic legislation.
- Corruption of the voting process, eg, enabling
state governments to reverse popular votes.
- Enhancing police powers, qualified immunity,
& unqualified immunity.

Fortunately, banning inter-racial marriage won't
happen because that would personally affect
Clarence & Ginny Thomas.
You forgot the waste of time, beginning on day 1, looking for something to impeach Biden over.

Which, by the way, I find very odd for a "law and order" party. It is unusual use of law to have to search for a crime for which you've already decided on punishment. But who said anything about being consistent?
 

PureX

Veteran Member
They will use the Supreme Court to set their political appointments beyond legal scrutiny. After that they will begin a permanent take over state by state. Which will then give them a permanent majority in the federal legislature. And they'll have a permanent lock on the judiciary via the Supreme Court and their appointed toadies in the justice department.

The executive branch will not matter.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
They will use the Supreme Court to set their political appointments beyond legal scrutiny. After that they will begin a permanent take over state by state. Which will then give them a permanent majority in the federal legislature. And they'll have a permanent lock on the judiciary via the Supreme Court and their appointed toadies in the justice department.

The executive branch will not matter.
Yes, the state by state take over is much more concerning regarding the demise of democracy.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You forgot the waste of time, beginning on day 1, looking for something to impeach Biden over.

Which, by the way, I find very odd for a "law and order" party. It is unusual use of law to have to search for a crime for which you've already decided on punishment. But who said anything about being consistent?
"Law & order" typically isn't about justice.
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
Would a Republican takeover of Congress tip the 2024 presidential election in their favor or against them, for example?

With the makeup of the Republican party what it is now, their goal of returning America back 50 years will continue. The aftermath of the 2012 midterms will be repeated with the power to control the Supreme Court, cut entitlements etc. Its beginning to look like we are to be a white Christian country as far as representation is concerned. Some say this direction began with Newt Gingrich and his co-called 'contract with America'.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Historically, the president's party has done worse in midterm elections than the other party, so a Republican takeover of the Senate and House is not out of the question this year. Some projections also predict that even if one chamber of Congress could go either way, the other one will still go to Republicans. For example:

2022 Election Forecast: Ratings, Predictions & Key Races

Setting aside any hyperbole about a "red wave" or "blue wave" as if either would be a panacea for the country's issues—a type of hyperbole that has become an increasingly prominent feature of the polarized climate of American politics—what do you realistically think will happen if Republicans take control of both chambers of Congress? Would a Republican takeover of Congress tip the 2024 presidential election in their favor or against them, for example?

No, then they'll get the blame for all the woes of the world.
For the republicans in the 2024 presidential elections, I think it best if the democrats continue to be in charge.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
With the makeup of the Republican party what it is now, their goal of returning America back 50 years will continue. The aftermath of the 2012 midterms will be repeated with the power to control the Supreme Court, cut entitlements etc. Its beginning to look like we are to be a white Christian country as far as representation is concerned. Some say this direction began with Newt Gingrich and his co-called 'contract with America'.
The Republican Party does not care about returning to any imaginary good old days. That's all theater for the MAGA morons. To keep them hating and voting against democrats. Once they are no longer needed, and the new "ruling party" is permanently installed, they can be ignored like everyone else. Then all the new legislation will be about rendering the oligarchs exempt from the laws that everyone else must obey. They will have their own set of laws, to protect their wealth and power from each other, as the worlds of the elites and everyone else becomes more and more disparate.

That is what this is all about, after all. Not some return to some fantasy of white Christian America.
 
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Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Some risks of Republicans gaining more power....
- National ban on abortion.
- National ban on contraception.
- National ban on gay marriage.
- National ban on minors gender transitioning.
- Ending military support for Ukraine.
- Increased Christian theocratic legislation.
- Corruption of the voting process, eg, enabling
state governments to reverse popular votes.
- Enhancing police powers, qualified immunity,
& unqualified immunity.

Fortunately, banning inter-racial marriage won't
happen because that would personally affect
Clarence & Ginny Thomas.
Ain't none of those things gonna happen if the Republicans take control of Congress. That's crazy talk.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
If SCOTUS eliminated the 2/3 requirement to over-turn
a veto, they'd have a tough time justifying that interpretation
of the Constitution's Article I, Section 7, Clause 2.
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S7-C2-1-2/ALDE_00013645/
This seems most unlikely.
They couldn't do it. Not even the twisted mind of Clarence Thomas could figure out how to make the requirement "unconstitutional" or unintended, since it says precisely that in so many words.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
With the makeup of the Republican party what it is now, their goal of returning America back 50 years will continue. The aftermath of the 2012 midterms will be repeated with the power to control the Supreme Court, cut entitlements etc. Its beginning to look like we are to be a white Christian country as far as representation is concerned. Some say this direction began with Newt Gingrich and his co-called 'contract with America'.
The counterculture revolution began in the 60's and has continued to reinforce a mindset that has produced a nation of entitled spoiled brats! English was replaced by "victomese". Today innovation means coming up with new self-aggrandizing ways to be offended. The 50's looks like a dream compared to the blite of Leftist culture!

America is starting to look just like the aftermath of Woodstock. Many of the performers' dead from drug and alcohol abuse.




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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Ain't none of those things gonna happen if the Republicans take control of Congress. That's crazy talk.
As I've said, the risks arise if a Pub (especially Trump)
wins the presidency in 2024. I read what politicians
& SCOTUS justices say about pending cases & legislation.
They've spoken of several of the very things I listed, eg,
gay marriage & contraception not being constitutional rights,
a national ban on abortion, increasing police powers (eg,
making it illegal to insult a cop).
If I've read of such things, then certainly you have too.
So you can see why I find them to be risks.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
They couldn't do it. Not even the twisted mind of Clarence Thomas could figure out how to make the requirement "unconstitutional" or unintended, since it says precisely that in so many words.
SCOTUS has offered some twisted reasoning
that violates the Constitution before. Still, I did
say that this was very unlikely.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Midterms are often the "brakes" that voters put on perceived overreach or blowback.
The most common complaints I hear about the Biden administration and the current Congress is that they are not doing enough, that nothing is happening. Whether or not this complaint is justified or not, it certainly doesn't make sense to think it will improve the situation by using the "brakes".


"Hey, this car isn't going fast enough, try the brakes!"
 

averageJOE

zombie
The same oligarchs who get richer when Dems are in control will continue to get rich when the Reps are in control. Both "parties" are controlled by the same billionaires. The only changes we would see will only be on a social level.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
The most common complaints I hear about the Biden administration and the current Congress is that they are not doing enough, that nothing is happening. Whether or not this complaint is justified or not, it certainly doesn't make sense to think it will improve the situation by using the "brakes".


"Hey, this car isn't going fast enough, try the brakes!"
The Left wants much more socialist solutions, the Right has already had quite enough! America generally leans common-sense conservative.
 
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