muhammad_isa
Well-Known Member
Sorry?
What does that mean?
Do you think that Hitler will escape from further suffering or not?
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Salvation in Your Religion
- Thread starter Psalm23
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What does that mean?
Do you think that Hitler will escape from further suffering or not?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I get you, but I don't like humans suffering, even in the case of Hitler. So just let those die and stop being souls, if we accept souls as real.
joelr
Well-Known Member
Judaism was obsessed with sin and yearly events to remove this sin. But the salvation was for Israel.
In 327BCE the Hellenistic Greeks moved in and they had a popular theology about salvation, savior figures, souls going to an afterlife (not in Judaism) through redemption from the savior and many other concepts now found in the NT. There were also other dying/rising saviors. This movement influenced the formation of Christianity and transformed other religions into mystery religions.
The beliefs about Yahweh are similar to all deities going back to the first Gods from Sumer.
muhammad_isa
Well-Known Member
Can Almighty God die?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
So you are nothing but God, because if your soul could die, God would die?
muhammad_isa
Well-Known Member
Our souls belong to God.
Do you imagine that in "God land" he has a factory producing souls
or something?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Our souls belong to God.
Do you imagine that in "God land" he has a factory producing souls
or something?
Well, I believe differently.
muhammad_isa
Well-Known Member
You keep saying that .. and leave us with no clue as to why.
Psalm23
Well-Known Member
I have heard of that view of Judgement day and am undecided on if it is accurate according to the Scriptures. Perhaps I am of the minority opinion on this but the annihilation viewpoint seems more scary than the eternal judgement viewpoint.
Great question. I don’t think we have salvation in our religion. To do the will of God and become a lover of God and all humanity might be close.
spiritual5142
Member
I didn't understand your question can you explain more.
Saved / Delivered / Rescued
The dead can be ' saved ' because of the Resurrection Hope - Acts of the Apostles 24:15
A person's death pays the complete total asking price tag for sin stamped as Paid In Full - Romans 6:23,7
After the righteous and unrighteous are resurrected, being restored back to life, then what they do ' after ' they live again will determine if they gain everlasting life.
( Most people can gain eternal life on Earth - Matthew 5:5; Psalms 37:9-11 )
( Only those called to be 'saints/holy ones' are called to Heaven - Revelation 20:6; Revelation 5:9-10; Daniel 7:18 )
As for those of us still alive on Earth at Jesus' coming Glory Time of separation - Matthew 25:31-34,37 - we can be 'saved/delivered/rescued' by Jesus in order to remain alive on Earth and be here on Earth to see calendar Day One of Jesus' coming thousand-year governmental reign over Earth when Jesus will bring an end to ' enemy death ' on Earth - 1 Corinthians 15:24-26
Yes, the coming Judgement Day - Matthew 25:31-34,37 - will save/deliver/rescue the 'sheep '.
The 'sword-like executional words from Jesus' mouth' will rid the Earth of the wicked - Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-15
The wicked will be annihilated 'destroyed forever' ( Psalms 92:7; Psalms 104:35; Proverbs 2:21-22 )
firedragon
Veteran Member
Let me try and rephrase the question.
You mentioned Lucifarianism, Nietzsche and general nature saying you were impressed with them. That caught my eye. I am curious to know what impressed you by all three. Or if you think there are some similarities or elements that you like in them. I would like to hear your analysis.
Thanks.
spiritual5142
Member
There are other common things about them but in short all of them are about evolution and perfection. Our instincts aren't given by some God to test us, our instincts are given to us by nature in order for us to evolve and become stronger.
The Sum of Awe
Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
If I remember correctly, in another thread you once told me that fulfilling one's duties means putting your family first is that right?
The Sum of Awe
Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Salvation to me means having lived the best life you could for yourself.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Nation, family, society. Nothing precedes nation. Lord Rama said (Valmiki Ramayana):
'Janani janmabhoomishcha swargadapi variyasi"
Mother and nation are greater than heaven.
The Sum of Awe
Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Do you mind if I ask what are some things that you do that you would consider duty to your nation, family, and society? I'm just curious trying to understand this practice in specific detail with examples.
And why would you say this is the only path to salvation? Is it healthy for the soul? Healthy for the mind? Does it create the most satisfying life?