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Salvation in Your Religion
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mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I don't know. It might, if there is something supernatural, but in my religion salvation is the same with or without the supernatural.
spiritual5142
Member
I don't exactly have a religion but I am impressed by Nietzche, Luciferiansim and generally nature. So I believe that the goal of humanity or any living being is to evolve and at the top of the evolutionary progression there are the predators. Predators in nature or human society are at the top of the food chain and they are the most beautiful and smart creatures.
But humanity is being domesticated by our masters. Our masters change over time , in the past it was kings then church or other religious people. I believe now it is financial elite. They want to dominate and domestice us using fear or lies. Why they want to domesticate us? because they like power and they like to be as Gods.
So my goal in life is to rebel against our masters, overcome the fear and lies to remove my limitations more and more to spiritually/intellectually evolve into a predator. I think this is the destiny of all life on earth.
But humanity is being domesticated by our masters. Our masters change over time , in the past it was kings then church or other religious people. I believe now it is financial elite. They want to dominate and domestice us using fear or lies. Why they want to domesticate us? because they like power and they like to be as Gods.
So my goal in life is to rebel against our masters, overcome the fear and lies to remove my limitations more and more to spiritually/intellectually evolve into a predator. I think this is the destiny of all life on earth.
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mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, the "worms" are the top predators, because they on all the dead, so they always win in the end.
It is fun to play winners, but that is an individual game in part.
muhammad_isa
Well-Known Member
The most important thing in Islam, is to believe in Almighty God, and that He has no partners in Sovereignty.
Secondly, it is to believe in His messengers.
Do I think that a person can "go to heaven" if they don't believe in Muhammad, peace be with him?
Yes I do .. but it is complex.
Whatever one labels themselves, including Muslim, it is possible that a person might go to hell ,, for a time..
..hell and heaven being more of a spiritual condition, rather than a place, as such.
spiritual5142
Member
Worms aren't predators they are parasites at best.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yeah, but the food chain is circular for eating other life.
spiritual5142
Member
"There's none so blind as those who will not see"
Surely at some time in your life, you have seen the world through the eyes of a predator and felt what it means to be truly alive. Why don't you want to see?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Because that is only one way to see. I use it when it works, but it has a limit. I also see in other ways and they also have limits.
I'm a Hindu who believes in a similar concept called mokṣa or 'liberation.' It is liberation from saṃsāra, the cycle of life, death, and rebirth. There are different views on what the jīvātman or soul experiences when it is liberated. Additionally, there are different ways to attain liberation. One way is to chant the name Rāma with devotion to Nārāyaṇa. Another way is to worship Śiva, especially in the form of liṅga. A third way is more philosophical: you listen to discourses, contemplate what you heard, and realize the truths that you contemplated. These are just three of the ways to liberation in Hinduism, by the way. To me, one of the things that makes Hinduism beautiful is that there is a path to liberation for every kind of person out there.
Well, yes...but...
Part of a person ends with death. Maybe.
Part of a person goes to live with the ancestors. Maybe.
Part of a person sticks around to 'haunt' where they lived and who they lived with who survive. Maybe.
Part of a person spreads out into surrounding environment, energy and matter contributing to the ongoing flow of life. Maybe.
Part of a person reincarnates as a new life, a new person. Maybe.
Part of a person goes on to some happy, restful place. Maybe.
Part of a person goes on to some unhappy, unrestful place. Maybe.
Maybe all of those, and maybe more I can't conceptualize. but I really don't have a problem with multiple simultaneously occurring but different destinations, as I see humans as multi-component entities...
spiritual5142
Member
Well I think there are only two. You are either a master or a slave.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, that is the beauty of cognitive relativism. What works for you, I can still do differently. And so in reverse.
stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Surrender all thoughts, words, actions to God
Psalm23
Well-Known Member
How is salvation described in your beliefs?
Psalm23
Well-Known Member
Sounds similar to some of the history episodes I have watched.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Yes, in Humanism it involves beer and chocolate
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
By fulfilling his / her duties. No other way.
My own view does not believe in existence of heaven or life after death.
Psalm23
Well-Known Member
Does chocolate and beer go together well? Maybe you mean not at the same time?
Altfish
Veteran Member
Oh, sorry it is to be had separately