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KWED

Scratching head, scratching knee
True. But what does that have to with @Trailblazer or mine beliefs? Those others can see it as they want to. We won't stop them.
So basically you accept that your belief is no more justified than Ahmaddi's belief, and your dismissal of theirs no more justified than their dismissal of yours.

To the impartial observer they are all false prophets, delusional or dishonest. It is only existing belief that clouds the judgement.
As Stephen F Roberts said "When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
It's My Birthday!
So basically you accept that your belief is no more justified than Ahmaddi's belief, and your dismissal of theirs no more justified than their dismissal of yours.
That's not what I am saying. It is justified to us, we investigated the claim of Baha'u'llah and we believe his claim. Ahmaddi must make his own determination. That's what indepdendent investiagtion is all about.
To the impartial observer they are all false prophets, delusional or dishonest. It is only existing belief that clouds the judgement.
As Stephen F Roberts said "When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”
You are an impartial observer, and we are not, in your estimation. How do you know this?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Yeah, pick and choose. I'm sure you know that God and Jesus are real and have things that prove it to you. Just like Baha'is know that God and Baha'u'llah are real and have things that prove it to them. But what you believe as a Christian and what they believe as Baha'is are very, very different. Then add in some Atheists and they'll say both of you are believing in a God that can't be proven to exist. Yup, pick and choose.

But... since Baha'is do believe in God, in spite of no proof, then what do they mean by superstitious beliefs? Since they don't believe in Satan, in the physical resurrection of Jesus and that Jesus is God, then I'd imagine those things would be superstitious beliefs to them.
It's odd that (some) people get messages from beyond shall we say. I didn't used to believe that a spirit person poised against God called the Devil and Satan existed, but now I do. Naturally to some it's a fictional account. I no longer believe that. And the human race is in a precarious position.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
So basically you accept that your belief is no more justified than Ahmaddi's belief, and your dismissal of theirs no more justified than their dismissal of yours.

To the impartial observer they are all false prophets, delusional or dishonest. It is only existing belief that clouds the judgement.
As Stephen F Roberts said "When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”
In the end, God will do what it is He is going to do. By God I mean the God above all others, even those called gods.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
That's just your opinion. There a many others who disagree.

So, what you meant to say was "do you believe in the version of god that I believe in?"

Those are just claims. There is no "evidence" to support them. There are parts of the Bible and Quran that are demonstrably wrong, so they aren't reliable sources.
There is some form of history,too.
 
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