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Is it wrong for a Muslim to perform at a Christmas celebration?

dogsgod

dogsgod

Well-Known Member
The religious moral fabric that unites a people is the same fabric that divides communities.
 
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Parma

Member
Divided is yourself your own mind divides yours from anothers, be one with your trueself and you will no more need to divide youself from the world or people. but because you are 1 with yourself you start to learn to become 1 with the whole world. Skin if we look at that for instance. If we say we are divided by colour then that is not true. Colour is down to your natural habitat. As I have noticed as may others that children from black/asian communities are born lighter skinned from the people who are born from there country of desent> Also I have noticed that lighter skinned people who live in hotter climates do end up with darker toned skin. I am coloured myself yet I have european blood. I have known people who have had coloured desendents but to look at these people you would call them white. We are all a mix and match of worlds of people unless your speacies has been having insest. which would show defects. there have been cases of 3 black triplets in africa being born with blonde hair and blue eyes. If we look close We discrimate on our genes. not our colour
 
*Paul*

*Paul*

Jesus loves you
Parma said:
I dont deny that the beliefs of moses are right, maybe they are. but not to be open minded makes u think the wrong way. no 1 is born learned not even moses or jesus as they learnd through life and later on in life on how to live it. Even jesus was tempted. nothing is certain but god before all at end. there is no path only a journey to peace of mind you cannot find peace of mind by being forced wether that is through christianity islam or any faith as faith is open to all open minded. so to close it on the fact there is only 1 way to god is the same as saying there is no way. as lemon will tast bitter to you and to me the only difference is the taster. Taste true god he has no differences in any of his childern they fruit tastes the same to all
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These are very definate statements you are making as though they are true, isn't that closed minded? WHat makes you right and me wrong?
 
*Paul*

*Paul*

Jesus loves you
dogsgod said:
The mere asking of this question makes me question the validity of religion. The mere thought that religion should come between people is reason enough to abandon it.
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And all non theists are best buddies?;)
 
*Paul*

*Paul*

Jesus loves you
Mujahid Mohammed said:
Ramadan songs? we recite Quran during Ramadan.
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Well I must admit that I was suprised to hear that there were Ramadan songs at all, I only ever remember hearing prayers recited (or maybe it was the koran being read in arabic). But your sister Djamila confused me with her post which is why I asked.

She said:
You'll have Muslims singing their hits (as in the clip above) - or even singing along with Christian songs - during Christmas television specials, and the same in reverse during Ramadan.
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And she also said in response to my question:
Yes. There's even an interfaith choir in Sarajevo that professionally performs the songs of all three of Bosnia's major faiths.
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All I know about these things is what Muslims tell me i'm afraid.
 
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Sahar

Well-Known Member
*Paul* said:
Well I must admit that I was suprised to hear that there were Ramadan songs at all, I only ever remember hearing prayers recited (or maybe it was the koran being read in arabic).
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You should be surprised! Listen, many (if not the majority) try to get closer to Allah during ramadan by praying, reciting the Quran...and many succeed to finish reading the whole Quran in the month of Ramadan not only once but twice and more...If you went to any mosque during Ramadan, you would find it full of the prayers, and also you would hear their cryings and hear them asking God's forgiveness!
On the other side, there are some "muslims" (i don't know what to call them) thought that Ramadan is the month of amusement, so if you went to the mosques searching for them, you wouldn't find them, instead you would find them at the nightclubs, drinking, smoking and watching some naked girls dancing...i can tell you those are few but unfortunately they r present! If they only knew that Ramadan is the month of forgiveness...!!!
But are the second gruop like the first one?! :no: :no:
Would God look at the second one like the first!?! :no:
 
fullyveiled muslimah

fullyveiled muslimah

Evil incarnate!
I must admit Paul that I am just as confused by some of Djamila's posts as you are. I think my brothers and sisters will agree with me here. The way bosnians observe "Islamic" practices is strange to us because we do not share the same culture, nor do we view Islam the same way. So when she posts some things having to do with Islam, I am thrown off by it a little.
 
Djamila

Djamila

Bosnjakinja
Uggh... ;)

Well, here's a video from one such special for Bajram (Eid ul'Fitr), the end of Ramadan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TImrWt3kyJQ

And here's one HUGE concert for Muhammed in Sarajevo, with religious Islamic music. This one is "Allah Allah":

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=q6oX1oXKsk4

This is a part of how we celebrate Ramadan, and it's the same in Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, Albania, Bulgaria, and even Turkey.

If that's different than in the Middle East, so be it.
 
Djamila

Djamila

Bosnjakinja
My favorite part of that first clip are the SMS messages they display along the bottom. One is:

Svim Muslimanima sretan praznik Bajram serif mubarek olsun - Katolik iz Hrvatske
To all Muslims a happy Eid ul'Fitr - from a Catholic in Croatia

:D Xox Thanks, sweetie.
 
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Parma

Member
I agree, but if we live with morals, integrity, and dignity. U acomplish all reasons of all faiths. U are practicing wat they all preach just not in a church mosque temple but in daily life common living. And anyway for those who will say i am miss guided I thought god existed everywhere if that is the case does it not make it more valid to have my approach then the 1 these religions abode onto a person. I am not starting up a religion niether am I trying to down grade any. As people wil beileve wat they will and hopefully it will guide them to do good, but you cant deny on how to live life and if we live life with them aspects in life then you are following moses 10 commandments as they tell u to live with moral. u are following muhammed ideal there is only 1 god. u are following all knowledge without prejudice and without false knowledge of saying my way is right. As no one can say they are right. How can u measure a mans faith. Its like saying god only made me god didnt make you. I thought god was the all over creator and if that is the case then he made budda guru nanak jesus muhammed e.t.c all men. Then did he create them all false no As all holy men were not god not perfect and did not right the texts themselves. How do you know you are right you are not god. Follow wat is good for man kind as wat benefits you and me must benefit GOD. THE REST FALLS DOWN TO FAITH
 
TashaN

TashaN

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Djamila said:
This is a part of how we celebrate Ramadan, and it's the same in Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, Albania, Bulgaria, and even Turkey.

If that's different than in the Middle East, so be it.
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Well, i think that brother Mujahid Mohammed and sister FVM are not in the Middle East. ;)
 
Djamila

Djamila

Bosnjakinja
And secondly, why are you even still talking about this?

You're all walking around like God's gift to mankind, "Oh, music at Ramadan? I never heard of it..." "Oh my God, music? Oh no! No Muslim would do that!" "Oh, well we are real Muslims and we pray all Ramadan!"

Well good for you! Bravo! Well done! Good show!

Meanwhile, it's not like I hired actors and faked the videos I've shown you from YouTube. They're real, believe it or not! Look at them again!

The first one is a fine Muslim superstar singing a lovely Bosnian Muslim folk song on Eid ul'Fitr. The second is Sarajevo's Zetra Olympic Stadium absolutely packed with Muslims for a religious concert for Muhammed. They're real, you can see them with their own eyes!

So stop acting like you've no idea what's going on when I say WE LISTEN TO MUSIC AS PART OF CELEBRATING RAMADAN!

You all should try it, maybe you wouldn't be so uptight and crabby. You're all practically LOOKING for conflict. I posted all these threads about mosques in the Islam forum, not ONE ****ING REPLY! Not a SINGLE ONE! I post anything that sets off your "OH MY GOD! THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I KNOW!" alarm and you're all over it.

Well, whatever. ;) Enjoy it.

But, as I said - you've seen the videos of the Ramadan concert, so knock off pretending to be confused.
 
Djamila

Djamila

Bosnjakinja
This one isn't a live concert, but it is a Ramadan music video. I've no idea what the lyrics are, but I'm sure they're absolutely beautiful.

This is one of my favorite Arabic songs, largely because of the video. It's more or less exactly a Ramadan day of my life, lol... almost creepy, except I do all my prayers at mosque during Ramadan, not at home...

Asala Nasri of Lebanon:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49ZNVphCPxY
 
lilithu

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
not4me said:
You should be surprised! Listen, many (if not the majority) try to get closer to Allah during ramadan by praying, reciting the Quran...and many succeed to finish reading the whole Quran in the month of Ramadan not only once but twice and more...If you went to any mosque during Ramadan, you would find it full of the prayers, and also you would hear their cryings and hear them asking God's forgiveness!
On the other side, there are some "muslims" (i don't know what to call them) thought that Ramadan is the month of amusement, so if you went to the mosques searching for them, you wouldn't find them, instead you would find them at the nightclubs, drinking, smoking and watching some naked girls dancing...i can tell you those are few but unfortunately they r present! If they only knew that Ramadan is the month of forgiveness...!!!
But are the second gruop like the first one?! :no: :no:
Would God look at the second one like the first!?! :no:
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Jeez, such self-righteousness. I know that during Ramadan, the days are devoted to fasting and reflection. But when the sun goes down, the evenings are devoted to celebration and family and generosity towards strangers. I would be surprised if there were no singing involved. There was certainly music at the Iftars that I've been to.
 
lilithu

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
fullyveiled muslimah said:
I must admit Paul that I am just as confused by some of Djamila's posts as you are. I think my brothers and sisters will agree with me here. The way bosnians observe "Islamic" practices is strange to us because we do not share the same culture, nor do we view Islam the same way.
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Which is why I view Djamila's presence on RF as such a blessing. As a non-Muslim, I make no judgement as to who holds the correct view and who does not, but I am happy to see a diversity of views represented here.
 
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