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Animal Sacrifice
- Thread starter The Hammer
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Ok, I don't think that is same as sacrificing, because I think sacrificing includes idea of offering something for a god. Killing animal for food is in my opinion different matter.
I find it strange, because I don't think it is what Bible tells.
VoidCat
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So Jesus dying on a cross isn't a deity sacrificing itself for the sins of humanity? And he wasn't God in human flesh?
I'm not saying it's the same as a human killing an animal for food in a religious way. But it is a sacrifice. Dying and having a life taken from you isn't easy. It's painful and horrific especially on a cross. Many Christians who believe in the Trinity(and not all Christians are believers in that) believe Jesus was God dying there. And that Jesus was also human.
Growing up as a Baptist I always heard Jesus died on the cross for my sins. I also heard Jesus the Son, the Holy Spirit, And God the Father are all one. Which makes Jesus, God. And that Jesus was both fully God and fully human.
If that's not the version of Christianity you follow fine. Feel free to tell me yours. But many christians I know of believe in the whole washed in the blood of Jesus thing. Even a few I've met that don't believe in the Trinity(so he may not be a god in that theology-I don't know tho im not well versed in nontrintarian theology) still believe he died for mankind's sins. Either way Jesus sacrifices himself for mankind. In a very slow torturous way of crucifixion.
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In many cultures the two are tied together. The sacrificial animal is killed in the name of a Deity. And it's then divided up among congregants so they may partake in a religious meal at home.
Reminds me of the fact that Othinn sacrifices Himself to Himself, and hangs for nine nights on Yggdrasil. In order to bring better Wisdom and Knowledge to mankind.
Jesus certainly sacrifices Himself for the betterment of humanity.
I think it is true that he used his life for our benefit, but I think calling it a sacrifice can give a wrong meaning for it.
Bible tells there is only one true God that is greater than Jesus. That is why I think it is wrong to say Jesus is the God.
This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
John 17:3
...the Father is greater than I.
John 14:28
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1 Timothy 2:5
But, when many others are also called god in the Bible, also Moses could be called a god for pharaoh (Exodus 7:1), I think it is not bad to call also Jesus a god. But, I think it would be good to understand, the one and only true God is greater than Jesus, if we believe Bible Jesus.
And about being one, also disciples of Jesus should be one with God.
that they may all be one; even as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that you sent me.
John 17:21
By what the Bible tells, Jesus came on earth to declare sins forgiven and was basically killed because of that. In that way it can be seen he died because of our sins. But, he could forgive sins before his death, which is why death was not required for that.
The scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, "Who is this that speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?" But Jesus, perceiving their thoughts, answered them, "Why are you reasoning so in your hearts? Which is easier to say, 'Your sins are forgiven you;' or to say, 'Arise and walk?' But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins" (he said to the paralyzed man), "I tell you, arise, and take up your cot, and go to your house." Immediately he rose up before them, and took up that which he was laying on, and departed to his house, glorifying God.
Luke 5:21-25
One Biblical reason why Jesus died is this:
For to this end Christ died, rose, and lived again, that he might be Lord of both the dead and the living.
Romans 14:9
And another reason is:
Most assuredly I tell you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains by itself alone. But if it dies, it bears much fruit.
John 12:24
That Jesus died gave him opportunity to be raised from the death. And that his disciples saw that, gave them courage to continue without fear, which I think is why he was allowed to die. And in simple way it could be said he "sacrificed" his life for us. But I think it should be understood in correct way, it was not some kind of human sacrifice in the way people seem to normally think. It is more like when soldier sacrifices his life in defending his country, the death itself is not an offering to please God, it is that he used his life for others.
VoidCat
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Clearly different then I was taught. But a sacrifice never the less.
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