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Francis I has apologized

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
So you think Europeans, ie English or French, would be better for the USA than Mexicans slipping into the country?
Methinks you would be wrong. For starters it's often said that the further distance an immigrant comes the better that immigrant will be.
I suggest that Asian immigrants are of more value than Hispanic ones, going by educational standards, standard of living, business accumen etc..
How can, say, a Central American person have more 'right' to be on native American soil than a European or Chinese?
Because the Central American is an American indian, Mexican immigrants work way harder than Asian immigrants and european Americans, and perhaps a lot harder than you
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Your profile suggests you are driven by fashionable ideas, Woke even. Jesus wasn't a woman, or a trans, or a lesbian, or some drug addled 21st Century person living in some 'gay' relationship and rejecting children in preference to a hedonistic lifestyle. And Jesus spoke of God as 'my Father.'
You're just posting whole lot of racist, homphobic, hate speech, America needs less of those things, seriously
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
What do you guys think?
Will this be accepted by Native Americans?

Evolution should apologize! Its been one long, very, very long, bloody grind! Countless living things overtaken by stronger forms! Countless civilizations conquering other civilizations!

The Chinese ran the native American ancestors out of China! Then they fought each other for ages in the Americas! European immigrants overwhelmed the so-called Native Americans. Life marches on! One day a Chinese Pope may need to apologize to America for nuking it!
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
So are you ok with South and Central Americans (ie Mexico, Brazil, Chile etc..) bringing Catholicism to a majority secular nation like the USA ? And then occupying land once belonging to 'indigenous native Americans' ?

Are you?,I don’t live in the USA so doesn’t impact me,it does make me sad that the religious in the USA are trying their best to go backwards with taking away pro choice,bit like how they treated the indigenous people,no choice.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Because the Central American is an American indian, Mexican immigrants work way harder than Asian immigrants and european Americans, and perhaps a lot harder than you

*Blinks*

That's quite the generalisation. I feel somewhat compelled to defend a lot of my migrant friends and their work ethics.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Here in Sothern California most of the hardest, most physical jobs are filled by hispanic immigrant workers, gotta love them,

I'm not denigrating the Hispanic work ethic at all. Just asserting that there are lots of first gen immigrants everywhere who are appreciative of opportunity, work hard for their children, etc. I've worked with plenty, particularly Asians (because of where I'm located, just like you'd have more exposure to Hispanics because of your location).
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
I'm not putting down Asians, I'm just saying that they tend to get the less physical jobs, like the European Americans, also a lot of Indians get visas for computer jobs.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The Mission was a good movie But it shows how ruthless the church could be imo.
Instead of labeling "the church", I believe that it's more accurate to say "all too many within the church", including some of the clergy, possibly even some bishops, that had to know what was going on.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Hey, thanks for the responses. I read your earlier one too, and it was pretty informative.
My guess (as yours it seems) is that the Catholics on the SC were biased against Roe vs Wade being maintained. This whole scenario became somewhat predictable from the time the makeup of the SC become more skewed.

And that's about where my point ends, to be honest. I don't know if a 'more representative' SC would be good. Or if more parity there would be good. I just believe that in response to your question about 'Why are Catholics accused of imposing their views on others in a country where voters are said to decide policy?' that there are things that can be pointed to...such as the makeup of the SC...where Catholics have a stronger voice (or at least, conservative Catholics do) than their numbers would warrant in a representative democracy.

It's unfortunate how politicized the SC has become. Or maybe always was.
And a recent survey agrees with you even on the national level, as 2/3 of all white Catholics wanted Trump over Biden in the 2020 election. OTOH, black and Hispanic Catholics overwhelming were not in Trump's camp.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Here in Sothern California most of the hardest, most physical jobs are filled by hispanic immigrant workers, gotta love them,
And isn't it ironic that so many American business owners decry that they don't have enough workers and yet we have so many at our southern border that could do so much to help.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Instead of labeling "the church", I believe that it's more accurate to say "all too many within the church", including some of the clergy, possibly even some bishops, that had to know what was going on.
Why would that be more accurate?

We're talking about systemic, institutional abuse over more than a century. This is not just about some limited set of rogue individuals.
 
Of course, 95% of them are native American Indians, be it north or south American indian, they have more right to be here than any European descendent IMHO and they are better for the country than most Europeans

Mexicans are a primarily a combination of mixed race (that may be significantly European heritage to significantly indigenous heritage); people who are mostly of indigenous heritage; and people of mostly European heritage,

Most of them are, at least partially, of European descent.
 

idea

Question Everything
Because the Central American is an American indian, Mexican immigrants work way harder than Asian immigrants and european Americans, and perhaps a lot harder than you

As someone who works with immigrants from all over the world, please do not group anyone together. It doesn't matter where someone came from, there are wide spectrums within each group. Everyone should be treated individually, not judged on where they came from.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
It is a Native American chief who put it on his head.
So? One doesn't speak for all, the Pope is the head of centuries of of oppression, he's the face behind recently discovered murdered children, and he is of an entirely different culture and religion and has done nothing traditionally required to earn the right and privilege to wear such a headdress.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
You're just posting whole lot of racist, homphobic, hate speech, America needs less of those things, seriously
Odd you say this when you aren't doing much better.
Of course, 95% of them are native American Indians, be it north or south American indian, they have more right to be here than any European descendent IMHO and they are better for the country than most Europeans
That's like saying the Norse had a fair claim to Dublin because Norway and Ireland are both in Europe. It doesn't work like that.
Yes, even the Native Americans had territories and warred against eachother over them.
Because the Central American is an American indian, Mexican immigrants work way harder than Asian immigrants and european Americans, and perhaps a lot harder than you
Judging people by place of origin and pidgeon holing and homogenizing them is racist. It's hardly any different than judging by the color of skin.
 
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