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Separation from God
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RestlessSoul
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The material world, with all it's associated attachments, blinds us to our true nature, which is infinite and divine. The ego, with it's commitment to the illusion of self, conspires in this process of deception. Thus we mistake that which is empty and without substance, for the only true reality, while the racket in our own heads drowns out the voice of God..
Kelly of the Phoenix
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I believe God is omnipresent, so separation is impossible.
Wildswanderer
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I would say that people in hell are separated from God's presence by their choices, not that God isn't there. There's lots of people who can't currently experience God's presence even though he is everywhere present.
Honestly, I have no idea.
I can't make heads nor tails from that. What would dualists that are separate from God be?
God is something separated, contrasted, divided to self? Something that isn't atone with self?
No idea. From where I stand it looks like there are more conceptions of god than there ever were theists. Perhaps even literally.
When love is seen as something to be experienced through another what happens in the mirroring ; when another other experiences self?
Upon meeting what does the mirror reflect of self vs other as self?
Sorry. Still doesn't ring any clear bells.
Hell does not exist.
but that isn't what the bible implies. it doesn't imply multiple interpretations, nor does it imply exclusively separateness
so a dualist would be confused or in a mental state of chaos because of the belief in separation?
some people "believes" it does. but the bible doesn't say god created such. so then what creates, or created hell? ignorance of god, or lack of understanding what god is?
Plus limited knowledge of the world they lived in, a three level reality, the sky above, the earth they walked on and the below.
3. The images of hell that Sacred Scripture presents to us must be correctly interpreted. They show the complete frustration and emptiness of life without God. Rather than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy. This is how the Catechism of the Catholic Church summarizes the truths of faith on this subject: “To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God’s merciful love means remaining separated from him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called ‘hell’” (n. 1033).
28 July 1999 | John Paul II
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