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Creation vs. Evolution

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
Inca, I saw no one else taking this thread so personally as to hurl personal insults at another poster, that is why no one else's posts were deleted.

This is a debate, so here is my final suggestion to you: If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Any further posts not on topic will be deleted or edited accordingly.

Maize
 

(Q)

Active Member
So I just wrote him asking how come he knows if a "cherub" is not made by matter as well and is trapped in Planck dimension?

There is Planck time and Planck length – which do you refer?

Even so, if cherubs existed it would be unlikely at the Planck level considering matter is little more than a wave function.

How come he knows if the medium used is something in Hertz frequence or perhaps with the influence of chemical structures as psylocibine in mushrooms or Ayahuasca similar to serotonine or other hallucinogenic stuff acting like a key-lock in the brain?

Because it would be detected.

How come he explains that people who are not squizophrenic have witnessed odd experiences in ancient megalithic temples

They’re lying?

why anthropologists and Dr. Dan Burisch, Ph.D in Molecular Biology and Biological System would expose themselves and their reputation to ridiculous with things like these

Please don’t confuse anthropologists with the likes of Dr. Dan. This guy is the poster child of kooks. Biowarfare, mind-melds with a living extraterrestrial, daily angel visits, designer viruses that incorporate lethal ET strains, stargate transmissions, remote viewing, astrology, Catholic-mysticism, Judaic-kaballa, human subjects, abductions, treaties with extraterrestrials, area-51, abducted when 9 years old, a Ganesh particle that conveys healing and possibly immortality, covert operations, pole shifts, 2012, fate of the planet, black ops, broken bones from heavy-handed handlers, 4" x 1/4" scar up the back of his head. The good doctor has it all.

But even before that I had to explain the physics we read in books look like metaphysic

There are no physics in metaphysics – that’s why it’s called metaphysics. It’s more pseudoscience.

We don't know if gravity is a real force with real gravitons or if it's an illusion due to the deformation of the universe

Gravity is hardly an illusion, is not a force according to general relativity and if gravitons are observed they most likely will be real.

we don't know if we're gonna end in a Big Rip or Big Crunch

The universe is expanding at an accelerating rate – no Big Rips or Crunches or even Farts.

we don't know what is the almost 80 % "nothingness" and "vacuum" of the universe and have a bunch of contradictory theories but they call it "science

What theories exactly are contradictory?

and then others say (in Scientific American) everything is an illusion like Matrix hollogram created by binary or other codes saying the "visible" Universe has at least 10 followed by 100 zeros bits of entropy

Sciam is a magazine in which almost anyone can get published who has a theory, valid or not. Of course, if someone quotes “bits of entropy,” they probably have no idea what they’re talking about.

So, he was humble enough to admit

So what? You said he was “this guy.”

That happens with real scientists and not amateurs who think they can discuss about science

Then could you please leave the science to the scientists? Thanks muchly.

I don't have to provide every single site or name or page of the book to satisfy the skepticism that went to cynical field long ago. I DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE ALL THE NAMES AND DATA

Then you have no idea what are the fundamentals of discussion and debate. Could that be the reason why you get banned from forums? Hmmm…

Do I have to write the scientists personal e-mail to satisfy somebody's "interest in science" or the stupid messages the moderator allowed him?

If you make claims you must provide the sources of those claims, otherwise you’re just blowing smoke out your @ss.
 

inca

Active Member
I wonder why the moderator allows YOU to say my @ss is blowing smoke out???????? And nobody asks you to quote your source. Who cares really? Back to the point:
Planck time or Planck lenght? Please define a UNIQUE definition of time accepted by every scientists in the world and WHY would be unlikly at Planck level for a cherub to act in a wave function. In fact if we believe what religious account explain they can act in a wave function.
You say Hert frequence or the action of hallucinogenic would be detected. Please refer the tests and names of scientists who have been doing tests in that sense with shamans or people who immediately after they take drugs they attempt to kill their kids. This doesn't happen in all cases so how do the scientists knew to make the proper "measures" in the right time?
Cheap argument everytime there's no scientific answer you say repeated experiences must be all lies!
There is no physics in metaphysics you say. I say, there's a lot of metaphysics in a "science" called physics.
If Einstein believed gravity is an illusion due to deformation of space, I'll rather believe HIM than other respected points of view. Or at least wait to see IF (conditional again) IF gravitons are observed or likely to be real than accepting this as fact. It's not a fact, it's another speculation that remains to be check in the future.
The universe is expanding many scientists believe. But not everybody believes that. Some of them think is another illusion created by the curvature of the cosmos. IF (again a conditional, not a fact) IF the universe is expanding (I don't see why not but it's still need to be proved) THAT'S WHY some scientists believe the universe will end in a Big Rip. We don't know if there's gonna be or not a Big Crunch among other reasons cos we don't know if some particles have enough mass permiting the Big Crunch. It's believed not but then again we don't know yet. Until then the ????? is open. Not closed as Q pretends it to be.
The idea of Matrix universe is not done by amateur knowing LESS than Q but experts, so I gave the names and I repeat them again: Jacob B. Bekenstein, professor of Theoretial Physics at Hebrew Univ in Jerusalem, recipient of Rothschild Prize and John Wheeler. Perhaps we need to see your works printed in Scientific American
If those names are not enough, any reader can search physicist David Bohm from London University, expert in quantum field and neurophysiologist Karl Pribram from Stanford University.
Q says: Please don’t confuse anthropologists with the likes of Dr. Dan. This guy is the poster child of kooks. Biowarfare, mind-melds with a living extraterrestrial, daily angel visits, designer viruses that incorporate lethal ET strains, stargate transmissions, remote viewing, astrology, Catholic-mysticism, Judaic-kaballa, human subjects, abductions, treaties with extraterrestrials, area-51, abducted when 9 years old, a Ganesh particle that conveys healing and possibly immortality, covert operations, pole shifts, 2012, fate of the planet, black ops, broken bones from heavy-handed handlers, 4" x 1/4" scar up the back of his head. The good doctor has it all. "
No. That's not the case. That's a general statement done to answer anything to disregard the scientists after reading general themes in the site. Dan only studies Ganesh particle.
 

inca

Active Member
And then again I say to the readers. Investigate and contact the scientists mention in the sites. Ask them personal questions. Don't take for granted what books have been saying.
Even scientists admit Big Bang, Big Rip or Big Chill are just theories, speculations with many "holes". In this case the Big Rip theory is cos the mysterious dark energy that seems to be pulling universe apart.
www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993461
www.arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0302506
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030303.html
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030212.html
Illusion of expansion:
www.geocities.com/wlodekj/sci/3261.htm
Spherical universe?:
www.spacedaily.com/news/cosmology-01f.html
And then again, all written by respected scientists. Do I want the readers to believe ME? Not at all! I wouldn't insult your intelligence. It's up to everyone believe what he (she) chooses to believe in ignorance or not.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
inca said:
In fact if we believe what religious account explain they can act in a wave function

ok.. here is the problem... we cant just take what religious accounts say because religious accounts can be flawed...

religious accounts have bats being birds and bugs having four feet not six...

they have the world sitting on four elephants standing on the back of a giant turtle.
and so on and so forth...

inca said:
Cheap argument everytime there's no scientific answer you say repeated experiences must be all lies!

inca, you cant clame that your arguments are scientific and science based and then get upset when you are asked for proof...
science is all about showing repeatable and demonstratable proof...
not just proposing wacky theories...
psersonal ancetdotes are not proof... people can be mistaken and misinterpret what they see.

once uppon a time people used to see unicorns and mermaids and we have hundreds of medieval images of these beasts and mentions in the bible.
It doesn't make Unicorns real now does it.
why... there is no proof of them.

wa:-do
 

(Q)

Active Member
Please define a UNIQUE definition of time accepted by every scientists in the world

I would be happy to do that in a new thread.

WHY would be unlikly at Planck level for a cherub to act in a wave function

Because cherubs don’t exist, silly.

Please refer the tests and names of scientists who have been doing tests in that sense with shamans or people who immediately after they take drugs they attempt to kill their kids.

Huh? What are you ranting about?

I say, there's a lot of metaphysics in a "science" called physics.

If the links you’ve provided were any indication, it would be easy to conclude you know nothing about physics. So, it is most likely you will find a lot of Greek in physics as well.

If Einstein believed gravity is an illusion due to deformation of space, I'll rather believe HIM

Einstein came up with General Relativity, which describes gravity as the interaction between mass and spacetime. This is not an illusion nor had he ever stated it was an illusion.

The universe is expanding many scientists believe. But not everybody believes that. Some of them think is another illusion created by the curvature of the cosmos.

Pure nonsense. No one with a brain in his or her head thinks the expanding universe is an illusion. What have they been smoking?

IF the universe is expanding (I don't see why not but it's still need to be proved)

YOU would need to understand physics and the observational evidence in favor of an expanding universe. So, with that in mind it is unlikely you’ll ever see why.

We don't know if there's gonna be or not a Big Crunch among other reasons cos we don't know if some particles have enough mass permiting the Big Crunch. It's believed not but then again we don't know yet. Until then the ????? is open. Not closed as Q pretends it to be.

Putting words in mouth again? Or are you simply unable to comprehend English? I never said the universe is open or closed. And in fact, it is neither – the universe is flat.

The idea of Matrix universe is not done by amateur knowing LESS than Q but experts, so I gave the names and I repeat them again: Jacob B. Bekenstein, professor of Theoretial Physics at Hebrew Univ in Jerusalem, recipient of Rothschild Prize and John Wheeler.

Your posts are a wasteland of fallacies in the extreme. The fallacy above is known as “Appeal to Authority”.

The Matrix was a movie. Movies are not real. Hollywood deals in fantasy. Read a book.

Perhaps we need to see your works printed in Scientific American

Why would I bother to do that?

If those names are not enough, any reader can search physicist David Bohm from London University, expert in quantum field and neurophysiologist Karl Pribram from Stanford University.

Wow! You have an amazing talent for dropping names - Appeal to Authority.

No. That's not the case. That's a general statement done to answer anything to disregard the scientists after reading general themes in the site. Dan only studies Ganesh particle.

Yes, that is the comprehensive bio on Dr. Dan. He is a kook in the extreme. The Ganesh particle is pure pseudoscience based entirely on conjecture. One of the key concepts is that this particle is supposed to be the gridwork for an alien communication device.

Are we sane yet?

Investigate and contact the scientists mention in the sites. Ask them personal questions. Don't take for granted what books have been saying.

Oh sure, just toss out those textbooks in favor of emails to kooks and cranks. Is it any wonder no one takes you seriously?

Even scientists admit Big Bang, Big Rip or Big Chill are just theories, speculations with many "holes".

And of course its probably a big waste of time asking you to show why exactly the Big Bang Theory has many holes. Do you even understand the evidence?

And then again, all written by respected scientists. Do I want the readers to believe ME? Not at all! I wouldn't insult your intelligence It's up to everyone believe what he (she) chooses to believe in ignorance or not.

You’ve been insulting everyones intelligence in almost every post you make. And again, your choice in what you consider “respected scientists” (Caldwell) is another kook - Phantom energy, indeed.

Is it time an illusion?… or gravity?:

I think you don’t actually read the links you provide. Those links say nothing about gravity being an illusion.

You ARE blowing smoke out your @ss.
 

inca

Active Member
Yap, you bet I appeat to authority of the ones who don't make science fiction but science. The one farting here is you, Mr Q. AND AGAIN THE MODERATOR IS ALLOWING YOUR KIND MESSAGES TO ME and not erasing them. The wasteland fallacies can be read in Scientific American, if you think anyone can publish there and don't respect the ones who have the scientific knowlledge , what can we do? The existence or not of cherubs must be prove, you're the silly. Microbes were unseen and non-existing until they were found. We don't have the proper devices event to see gravitons. An interpretation of what Einstein believe was given by scientists. I post the links where the reader can find the names if they want to ask them rather than your expertise I don't know in what field! I set the examples and names of scientist believing universe expansion can be a misunderstanding. If they are smoking been scientists themselves, perhaps you have to ask them to answer your questions.
Yes I read a book by Michael Talbot, interesting, have you? Mr. Dan did an experience with devices and quartz, did you? He's an expert in his field, you're expert on what field? It doesn't matter if I mention serious names here in a long list, all of them are kooks according to you. WHY ON EARTH IS THE MODERATOR LETTING THIS INDIVIDUAL KEEP ON WRITING THIS SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER? CAN ANYONE RESPOND?
Yes I'm reading the links I'm providing. What happens is I let the reader decide instead of acting like you .
 

inca

Active Member
I have read Michael Talbot's book but not Mr. Q. I suppose he thinks more farts are coming out from @*** like David Bohm FORMER PROTEGE OF EINSTEIN AND ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED QUANTUM PHYSICIST :
www.bookfinder.us/review6/0060922583.html
And of course the work of Karl Pribram, neurophysiologist from Stanford letting us know how the brain works like hologram.
Of course, Matrix, 13th Floor, Truman's Show, Dark City, The Last Superheroe, Hypercube 2, Pi, etc are just films. Yet they are examples of what science is pretending to say...which is what Hinduism said about the illusion or Maya. Of course, the reader -and thanks God for that- can choose in free will what to believe and weigh the words of the participants.
 

inca

Active Member
Painted Wolf: I'm not upset when they ask me proof. Every single post that I have made (it's 15 pages discussion here and more in similar theme) I have tried to give enough data and provide sites for any reader who wants to investigate or disagree, skepticism is comprehensible. Yet it's easy to distinguish your attitude with you know who. I have disagreed with you but I'm not mad at you. Scientists are making claims and theories. I'm just showing them, if you don't know the difference between that and anecdotes is cos you're stealing somebody's else "argument".
About beasts witnessed by people in the past, remember few decades ago the saying about the gorilla was taken as fairy tale as well until "science" discovered them. Thousands of years of white culture ignorance until that day. And you can always get back to the pages where we were discussing about dinosaurs who were probably alived until not too much time ago. I say more, not all beast have to be imagine in this dense dimension you call matter. Under halucinogenic effect your brain let your eyes see beyond 0.5% frequences available in the universe and you can actually see the colors of the sound and something odd that can't be reproduced in labs with human devices. You can't duplicate the dream without the brain, yet everybody dreams. To explain what dreams may be or not ain't enough to reproduce the objective experience, hence is subjective cos you can measure the effects somehow. It's just an example of other "realities". If some people believe in gravitons is not because of the real visual evidence of those particles but indirect observations that may lead to that conclusion. That ain't fact yet. It could be in the future. Something interesting to read about:
www.theatlantic.com/issues/96may/nitrous/lsd.htm
In that sense, without any irony, I suggest you to ask your Cherokee ancestrals point of view and in fact undertake a practical experience...something not even the psicologists or psiquiatrists have always done. Most of them don't understand the practical and objective experience of the brain but give conferences about squizophrenic mind and similar things! Perhaps you already know many things in that sense too.
 

inca

Active Member
I'm sorry. I'm dissapointed with the attitude of the moderators here. In their fair balance they eliminated 2 of my comments and wrote 2 times advicing me not to insult. I was not , I was just giving back his pearls. Yet in spite of my saying they have allowed Mr Q to keep on doing this with me, they keep on letting and he feels free to adress to me his "messages". The very fact they are letting him and didn't say a word of warning is dissapointing. Of course, if I loose my temper and use his same expressions like @ss in a message after another like he does will send me to Valhalla. And of course the invitation to leave the issue was not offered for him. WHY? Is it because Moderator's scientific brain is getting upset cos the information may be defying its own principles???? I don't know and I don't wanna discover. I will withdraw now. Bye bye and have a good time.
 

(Q)

Active Member
The existence or not of cherubs must be prove, you're the silly. Microbes were unseen and non-existing until they were found.

You made the claim about cherubs, so you must provide the evidence to their existence. Can you or is this just another empty claim?

An interpretation of what Einstein believe was given by scientists.

So what? There are quotes to what Einstein believes that came directly from him. Who cares what someone else interprets.

I set the examples and names of scientist believing universe expansion can be a misunderstanding.

So, merely because you have found people that misunderstand science, we are supposed to accept their opinions?

Yes I read a book by Michael Talbot, interesting, have you?

Unfortunately yes, its complete crap.

Mr. Dan did an experience with devices and quartz, did you?

I don’t claim to have communications with aliens so no, I don’t claim to build alien communications devices. But Dr. Dan does.

He's an expert in his field, you're expert on what field?

I agree, he is an expert at being a kook. My area is physics and cosmology.

It doesn't matter if I mention serious names here in a long list, all of them are kooks according to you

No, they are well known kooks to everyone, except you.

Yes I'm reading the links I'm providing. What happens is I let the reader decide instead of acting like you .

You continually mention other ‘readers’ and what they’ll decide. I don’t think you’ve been keeping up with current events but the readers here are questioning you as well. Most here don’t take you seriously.

Of course, Matrix, 13th Floor, Truman's Show, Dark City, The Last Superheroe, Hypercube 2, Pi, etc are just films. Yet they are examples of what science is pretending to say...

No, they are fantasy films created by writers. Science doesn’t pretend to say anything.

Of course, the reader -and thanks God for that- can choose in free will what to believe and weigh the words of the participants

There you go again asking for reassurance – notice that none has come so far.

I have tried to give enough data and provide sites for any reader who wants to investigate or disagree, skepticism is comprehensible.

But you haven’t done that – all you’ve managed to do is provide links to pseudoscience. There is no data there, only unsubstantiated claims based on false assumptions. My baloney meter goes off the scale each time I read one of those links.
Scientists are making claims and theories. I'm just showing them

Correction – Pseudoscientists.

Under halucinogenic effect your brain let your eyes see beyond 0.5% frequences available in the universe and you can actually see the colors of the sound and something odd that can't be reproduced in labs with human devices

Yeah, sure. That one almost broke my baloney meter.

It's just an example of other "realities"

Sorry, but the rest of us here live in one reality. If you’ve discovered other realities, please pass the joint.

I don't know and I don't wanna discover. I will withdraw now. Bye bye and have a good time.

Bye. Thank you and come again.

*voice of Apo*
 

inca

Active Member
Yap, all written by scientists and all what scientists interpret about Einstein is crap. Only YOU are right. Noted it! B-R-A-V-O! clap-clap-clap! You see what happens when science of a very stupid old man goes to the brain? He says "who cares what people say?" Not you of course, what about the rest? Hmmm ? It's not that I found people who have misunderstood science. IT'S SCIENTISTS WHO ARE SAYING HIS POINTS OF VIEW ABOUT SCIENCE YOU, IMBECIL. They are not pseudoscientist. Are you talking for "everyone" in this forum when you say every single scientist I mention is kook? WHY THE F*&#@ are allowed those commentaries ad infinitum?
What are your substained claims? Once again, you're gonna say yourself and
I was forgetting to post this for the delight of the rest of readers:
www.enterprisemission.com/rnicks.html
(of course that geologist is an imbecil too, right?)
www.enterprisemission.com/_articles/05-14-2004/Interplanetary_1.htm
Just to remember an example of the swimming pool I set before. Another case in which science fiction imitates realities and viceversa.
I leave you to your delirium self-confidence. By the way, cherubs is religion issue. Religion doesn't provide evidence. In this topic I was letting "science" do the response of what science says. But as we can see better, there's no science at all. What we have now is different ideas exposed by a bunch of scientists with contradictory theories. I wanted to share that. I don't want to prove one theory is better than the other. I wanted the reader to discover that. Good that in your scientific mind all puzzles are solved and you have nothing new to learn cos science has already achieved your "brain" like Samsara.
If Stephen Hawkins, Michio Kaku, Odenwald , Bohm, Bekenstein asre pseudoscientist, well I have to kneel before you. I have met the most important scientist of all in this form. Lucky us. Hasta la vista viejo huevón!
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
inca said:
I'm sorry. I'm dissapointed with the attitude of the moderators here. In their fair balance they eliminated 2 of my comments and wrote 2 times advicing me not to insult. I was not , I was just giving back his pearls. Yet in spite of my saying they have allowed Mr Q to keep on doing this with me, they keep on letting and he feels free to adress to me his "messages". The very fact they are letting him and didn't say a word of warning is dissapointing.

Let's get one thing straight first of all, my first warning message to stop the personal insults was NOT directed at anyone in particular. I posted it that way so that EVERYONE would be reminded of the rule. I have read over the things Q has said in response to the posts you've made, and I see nothing wrong with them, meaning, he did not personally attack you in any way, your ideas maybe, but not you. If you can't take others questioning the claims you make here, then you shouldn't be in the debate forum. Now, I did not delete any post of yours until you posted two filled with nothing but insults and name-calling directed at Q. He did nothing of the sort, so therefore none of his posts were deleted.

Is it because Moderator's scientific brain is getting upset cos the information may be defying its own principles????
Hardly. Frankly, this thread makes my head hurt and I couldn't care less about the content of the debate as long as it's by the rules. So play by the rules of the debate forum, and you won't have to see me post in this thread again.

Of course, if I loose my temper and use his same expressions like @ss in a message after another like he does will send me to Valhalla.
@ss doesn't bother me, neither does *** for that matter, but I suppose Q was being polite. What is not polite and will NOT be tolerated is name calling and personal attacks. So quit playing the victim and abide by the rules of the forum and everyone will be happy.

And of course the invitation to leave the issue was not offered for him. WHY? I don't know and I don't wanna discover. I will withdraw now. Bye bye and have a good time.
Why? Because he's not getting irate when someone responds to his posts, like you are. I didn't demand you leave, it was a suggestion, take it or leave it. But if you're going to stay I suggest you CALM DOWN.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
inca said:
Under halucinogenic effect your brain let your eyes see beyond 0.5% frequences available in the universe and you can actually see the colors of the sound and something odd that can't be reproduced in labs with human devices
um... if it cant be reproduced in the labs with human devices then how do you know this?
0.5% is a very specific number... sounds like cherry picking to me...

[quote='"inca"]Scientists are making claims and theories. I'm just showing them, if you don't know the difference between that and anecdotes is cos you're stealing somebody's else "argument". [/quote]
but the theories arnt supported with actual evidence...just speculation and anecdote... and you havent provided any of your own evidence to back them up either...
as for my stealing anothers argument... Q simply puts things more bluntly and simply than I do... and I have to credit him there... abrasive perhaps but effective.

and my Cherokee ancestors and current elders do not promote the use of halucinogenics of any kind... we have done fine without them thanks. :roll:

wa:-do
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
ever hear of the 'old man on the mountain'... a sad to say recently departed rock formation here in my home state of New Hampshire... when looked at from the right angle five rock ledges would line up perfectly to form the profile of a man.

http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/whites/old_man.html

nature makes some remarkable things.. we also have Indian Head rock right down the road... another natural rock formation that looks like a person.

http://www.allroutes.to/profilesandfaces/

we are quite literally surrounded by faces...
so pointing out strange shadows on other planets or eaven here on earth isn't much proof for me... you see I've seen it done already.

as for Mayan blood sacrifice... if your hyperdimentional beings like vergins and teenagers then they must have been disapointed with the Mayans...
Most of thier blood sacrifice was done by adults and members of royalty with the occasional sacrifical captive warriors tossed in for variety... not virgins or teenagers.

wa:-do
 

inca

Active Member
The occasional sacrifice after a while meant thousands of people who had to be slaughtered per year. In the beginning the Nahuatl and Quiche people were selective.
Your point is correct, we don't have to believe every rock or mountain with a face. Yet when the specific game of shadows and light strike in certain day like equinoxes, solstices, eclipses and there are plateaus artificially created and different kind of stones were used to make "sits" to stand to the right distance and when the whole place presents dozens of images representing human races and different animals, the thing is completely different. That's why I say anthropologist and archeologist Daniel Ruzo had to examine the place for many years as others did with Nazca lines. No simple erosion but artificial images. Also we need to know the statues in certian communities were not statues as depicted by Egyptians, Greeks and other people. In Mesoamerica and South America they prefered to "hide" the monuments and play more with shadows and light in "sacred days".
Q: I knew that almost 75 years old brain doesn't know anything about anything in science field. But now we know he doesn't know anything about movies either!!!! May anyone help his arthritic brain and advice him to buy amagazine specialized in the 7th art explaining the film? Buy CINEFLEX, number 85, cost 9.50 cents. He can start reading from page 71.
R U "talkin' 2 ME?????
 

inca

Active Member
...of course he can't and won't understand me. He doesn't even understand a movie Clarke had written back in 1948 in a short story! Tell that idiot to check "The Sentinel" and the discovery of a crystalline pyramid (oh-oh, like Mayas, Moches and Egyptians, wowowwowaw!) erected on top of a remote lunar plateu millions of years before and shielded through the ages by an invisible force field.
"Duality" my a....s.
 
inca-- are you being serious about the invisible force field thing, or are you being sarcastic? I'm not trying to make fun but I honestly can't tell.
 
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