questfortruth
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Stop insulting my intellect. I am scientist.
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Shroud of Turin is from first AD.
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Start behaving like one then.
ElishaElijah
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Or common sense, that nowhere ever will a chimp evolve into a human being by evolutionary processes.
Genesis explains how we got here and again the way Genesis is explained lines up with the reality of life that we experience presently.
The Bible also explains how nations, people, climate, food, disease will be in the last days and that’s what we see on Earth presently.
As I stated before why not Utopia instead? Life could’ve rolled out many different ways other than what we see presently and as the Bible declares.
It hasn’t and my conclusion is that we have a Creator letting us know He is the One true God and Creator declaring the beginning from the end.
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ElishaElijah
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So what you’ve just described here is demonic, fleshly, lying works of Satan which are all counterfeits according to Scripture which is described as The Word of God. In the Word of God I have found the One True God and Jesus Christ. I have found Him to be the authentic God and King.
Sheldon
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And I repeat it's not forbidden, and no one is being stopped from offering opinions, and that's not what proselytising means.
Sheldon
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Preaching again, that's not debate, this is why you've falling foul of the rule on proselytising.
Sheldon
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It's not banned, this site even has a reference tool for quoting it as part of debate, but not for proselytising.
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ElishaElijah
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Some on here are saying they are an ape, an ape mates with an ape.
Evolution is nothing more than confirmation bias. Scientist have the same fossils and bones yet come up with different views about the same evidence.
When I look at the evolution version of the tree of life it’s mostly empty, what’s shown is Genesis 1 Creation account at the top of the tree, before that practically empty.
Sheldon
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Nope, this is just an obvious no true Scotsman fallacy, where any facts you don't like are labelled as demonic and dismissed with irrational handwaving. Also this rationale can be extremely dangerous as history has shown.
Sheldon
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Well there you go, laughably wrong, chimpanzees are apes as are gorillas, they cannot breed with each other. Great apes is a taxonomical group of different species, which includes humans.
No it is a scientific theory that is supported by overwhelming objective evidence, and is accepted by a global scientific consensus based on 162 years of rigorous global scientific scrutiny. Even the RCC, the largest and richest Christian church on earth, with it's virtually limitless resources, has long ago accepted this fact. The creationist propaganda movement is just a cultural phenomenon in the US. It a tiny minority in most developed countries where science has long ago moved on.
I thought it was based on confirmation bias, it can't be both can it? That individual scientists dispute small aspects of data that apply to an accepted scientific theory is what one would expect from the method. However species evolution is a scientific theory in good standing, that is accepted universally by a global scientific consensus.
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ElishaElijah
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If you read what I wrote you will notice that according to the Bible what he described is demonic activity not the activity from God the Creator.
What were the facts?
questfortruth
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You are banning me from expressing the opinion of the God of the Bible. God wrote the Bible, Bible is not banned. So, I have right to quote the Bible. Even if the question is: "Is LGBTQ membership sin or not?"
Sheldon
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You used an blatantly obvious circular reasoning fallacy, and I don't believe for a minute you are a scientist, your posts show a shocking ignorance of it's methods, that even a laymen like myself can see are embarrassingly wrong. I also never motioned your intellect in that post, at all, so well done.
ElishaElijah
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Science cannot test things that are unseen and spiritual. That doesn’t mean they are not real. Spiritually dead people cannot discern spiritual things and that’s what the Bible says about that and my view as well.
Sheldon
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Well there you go, thank you for confirming that creationist have a cartoon knowledge of species evolution, and don't have even the most basic understanding of evolution, as it does not, nor has it ever claimed chimpanzees evolved into humans. You don't even know the difference between a taxonomic group of different species like great apes, and a single species of great ape like humans. Nor are you remotely interested in learning, and accusing science of confirmation bias is just hilarious from a creationist who ignores denies or misrepresents every single fact that remotely contradicts their beliefs. Can you real imagine we haven't noticed creationist only cherry pick which scientific facts they deny, based on whether they dispute parts of their religious beliefs? That is so obviously confirmation bias it is hilarious.
No it doesn't, at all, Genesis explains nothing, it has not explanatory powers whatsoever, and makes broad appeals to magic and mystery, and gets even the most basic facts wrong. Most importantly, and unlike accepted scientific theories like species evolution, it is unsupported by any objective evidence. In the astronomical event species evolution was substantially or even wholly reversed tomorrow morning, creationism would remain an unevidenced archaic myth. Creationist attack scientific facts, in the mistaken belief we are faced with a choice between them and their unevidenced creation myth, but this a classic false dichotomy.
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ElishaElijah
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The confirmation bias is evolutionists have a theory so the fossil evidence is seen through that view and so your consensus is just those particular scientists who see evolution as far as Darwin’s theory picture of an ape slowly evolving into a human. Now that has all changed since that’s never been shown to happen and excuses made and terms blurred. Why? Because the obvious unanswerable question is what is the root of the tree, the beginning of life, your ancestor?
Well now that’s abiogenesis?
ElishaElijah
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Really? Then you never read it, simple enough that even a child can understand it.
Sheldon
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There were none, you just presented a bare claim, as you've done here again. Dismissing all facts that disagree with you as demonic is as I said a pretty obvious no true Scotsman fallacy.
Sheldon
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You just expressed your opinion, and each post where you falsely claimed someone was attempting to ban what you said, are still there, and I am not an administrator on this site, and this site provides a reference tool for quoting the bible.
You were, and are simply wrong.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
Sheldon
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So just a weird coincidence then?
No indeed, as @joelr said it is just a weird coincidence then?
Another no true Scotsman fallacy, does it even register that your arguments are relentlessly irrational in this way?
Well it would wouldn't it, and your confirmation bias is hardly an earth shattering shock.