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Humanity, Persons, or Son of Man

rational experiences

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If you ask just a human theist. Thinking telling stories only.

First. They say I'm using consciousness. Thinking.

Yet a body human is involved.

The thinker says I'm not God O entity the body I stand on. Nor am I the mass state. Heavens variables. As he named them as a human.

As a heavens is just another type of body mass in space. Only a human studied it to give it named separate bodies. When it's not separate at all.

Reason to say God earth was just an equal is a human saying I want to react it. To a human saying ground reactions attacks biology living.

So to change rock substance you have to know difference. In heavens as variables gases. Yet they don't change rationally as he begins attacking earths mass.

As without physical form they can't do anything. Named human science. Theist being theists as just a human. The excuse is I pretended my self was existing before myself as conscious identification. Human only.

Which is just thinking abnormally. Versus thoughts used to human survive. Natural self identity.

Then the thesis is I now will give God the body a non physical presence. As a human. Destruction not creation.

Comparing you had a physical body human as God had a physical body earth comparing. Says if you remove gods form you got bio sacrificed.

Exact advice.

As gods natural body before was consuming. Taught. Gods body in its past was evil.

You're just the human.

As presence says human is living via evolution. Cooling.

Yet a humans presence was never via cooling. So as you're not mass or gas evolution it's not your story first.

As presence heavens was cooled as it had been hot for dinosaurs and nature. So it had been cooled.

As we are biological iron red celled blood we don't exist with hot gas heavens.

Notice a humans life owns holy iron in its water biology. As dusts were taken into water naturally then lifted up in water mass evaporation.

Water and minerals need to remain ground holy.

The reason to teach.

As men took metal out of dusts. Yet origin metal with God body history is in deep pressured earth seams.

The reason to teach relativity.

As the sun converted earths face mass into dusts. Once pressure seams. Reason to quote holy dust was a legal law. Don't change any holy stated body.

As only living humans quote holiness.

Theists said dust was holy as it created biology lying. Holy dust was a given legal status only.

First who is the human as status. A question.

Who gave you permission to pretend when you never existed first? As the human making all quotes?

When position first the thinker is a human. Thinking consciously not for self position first ownership?

Pretty basic terms.....who do you think you are as just a human theists question. As we need to challenge just humans.

All about man's old origin nasty minded behaviours as....
Mr you don't know it all. And never did.

You only knew machines. Inventing.

Pretending his human consciousness existed as a planet man. First. Was just a man's choice.

Subject topic men compared their penis to volcanic mountain. Claimed it an erection spurting out heavens spirit. Into spaces womb.

As proof a human just a man not a God inferred self human terms were first given to a planet that doesn't speak. Not is it conscious.

So his mind is recorded first in that position heavenly status after he reacted changed earths nuclear transmitter. By humans science only.

Why it happened self human theists self possession as just a storyteller.

So you ask him don't you have and use a fake story about why you pretended you knew it all.

Like when I was a human as an atom floating in space.

Then he says but its still there.

As if he pretended to react the atom as change no atom would exist. So he doesn't tell truth. As he did change the atom.

Proving human theists are human liars.

As the real scientific position a human theorising first was about machines out of earths mass. Only.

Pretending a scientist is a God thinking building designing controlling substances is just by a humans mind.

All Choices human are by demand of it. Why a human proves just thinking I can demand of God anything I want. In human behaviour. As the scientist changed thinking.

Why he came to believe a man was God.

As it's natural humans acceptance my life is natural and I own it not by theory.

Is not accepted by any human theist to day pretending when no created creation existed.

When there's no such term.

As before cooling was only self consuming laws cosmic says real human intelligence no man is God.

The question to any human thinker asks why don't you accept natural life?

The real human answer is I am claiming I'm seeking position first power to use it in my machines position.

Isn't logic. Never was it logic.

It's why humans claiming we're God support humans using machines in biological experiments to destroy biology.

As they claim they own an excuse to hurt life.

If humans claim but I must protest my spirituality life is hurt. It's for human reasons exact.

If you honour life and apply ceremony...we always have as non destructive thinkers.

If you have to praise a deity praise unconditional love not a substance and then behave accordingly yourself.

Yet by now you have to realise no human commands a deity.

If you say I want peace on earth. Earth is reactive. Still cooling it's not peaceful.

If your claim I want my spiritual family humanity to be reunited. You were taught no reactive science allowed. Allow cooling to return health in biology and conscious mind use. By planet heavens stability.

And it's your own human aware teachings that said so.

Stability allow ice and it's pressure body and it's cooling to save us naturally the teaching. Life's saviour biology.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Man owns biology human.

Does reactive ground science. No fusion..life exists by water holding fusion removed it's water in ground fission.

Life is in water only. So we know it wasn't life.

Men say my human biology was sacrificed. Saviour body left. Position stability the ice body was sacrificed.

Our iron blooded biology after ice was present. Proven by dinosaur life.

Cooler. Owner evolution in heavens only as cooling. Status meaning of what evolved. Gas water status.

Man says my biology lives exists as saved by saviours stability.

Notice man owned biology.
Notice man sacrificed had and owned biology already.

Notice man says ice is needed to stabilise his biology.

What he said quotes as the terms a teaching status Jesus for and not moses again. Seeing he did the exact same science as his machines the same as was his control. Changing earths mass just a choice in the moment.

Reason men compare Adam to Jesus same men's reasons same teachings. Updated teachings as he had learnt a larger advised conscious realisation himself.

Men were living first is the known comparison.

Man first always owned biology of man. Man never owned a compared biology of God as the God.

Ignored teaching. As men are ignorant for allowing themselves to theory against life existing.

Why do you think they enforced a legal system for?
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
No it doesn't. The logos was created in the beginning. It doesn't say it wasn't created unlike god.. and again Jesus is a form, a formed thing. Humans are formed.

The Logos was in the beginning. John 1:1 does not say the Logos was created in the beginning,,,,,,,,,,,, it just was. And John 1:3 tells us that nothing came into existence without Him. So He, the Logos, did not come into existence, He always was.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
The Logos was in the beginning. John 1:1 does not say the Logos was created in the beginning,,,,,,,,,,,, it just was. And John 1:3 tells us that nothing came into existence without Him. So He, the Logos, did not come into existence, He always was.
a beginning is a creation of something. Everything was always something else before God began, beget it.

We know from Genesis that creation begins; when God says let there be light. So until the word was spoken there was only God. And even mow there is only god.
 
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Brian2

Veteran Member
a beginning is a creation of something. Everything was always something else before God began, beget it.

We know from Genesis that creation begins; when God says let there be light. So until the word was spoken there was only God. And even mow there is only god.

The Logos was not made, created, brought into existence because it was through Him that everything came to exist. Not every other thing, as the JW would have us think, but everything,,,,,,,,,,,,, everything that has been made.
John 1:3 Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member

Brian2

Veteran Member
You left off John 1:1 which tells you the word was created. Before the word was silence. Revelation 8:1

The Word was with God in the beginning. It does not say the Word was created in the beginning.
John 1:3 contradicts that notion.
The Word was with and in the God just as the God was with and in the Word.
Rev 8:1 has nothing to do with the beginning.
 
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Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
The Word was with God in the beginning. It said not say the Word was created in the beginning.
John 1:3 contradicts that notion.
The Word was with and in the God just as the God was with and in the Word.
Rev 8:1 has nothing to do with the beginning.
you twisted it yet again. in the beginning was the word. it doesn't say before the beginning was the word.. and that the word was with god and this was god in the beginning. god doesn't have a beginning or end but everything not yet created is latent until made active. god doesn't have attributes until the beginning.


so then, the logos was created when god spoke. the result was light as you see in john 1:4. this then was the 1st part/thing created. then everything subsequently became created through that 1st day
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
you twisted it yet again. in the beginning was the word. it doesn't say before the beginning was the word.. and that the word was with god and this was god in the beginning. god doesn't have a beginning or end but everything not yet created is latent until made active. god doesn't have attributes until the beginning.


so then, the logos was created when god spoke. the result was light as you see in john 1:4. this then was the 1st part/thing created. then everything subsequently became created through that 1st day

I did not say before the beginning. Read my post again. I presume that the beginning was the beginning of everything, the beginning of the creation. Strictly speaking there was no "before" the beginning.
If as John 1:3 says "all things came into existence through Him (the Logos) and without Him not one thing came into existence",,,,,,,,,, why do you say that the Word came into existence?
God is Love and God has always been Love.
God is Light and God has always been Light.
God did not become love and light.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I did not say before the beginning. Read my post again. I presume that the beginning was the beginning of everything, the beginning of the creation. Strictly speaking there was no "before" the beginning.
If as John 1:3 says "all things came into existence through Him (the Logos) and without Him not one thing came into existence",,,,,,,,,, why do you say that the Word came into existence?
God is Love and God has always been Love.
God is Light and God has always been Light.
God did not become love and light.
that which is eternal, infinite, god, if you believe doesn't have a beginning/end. words do. a word does.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
that which is eternal, infinite, god, if you believe doesn't have a beginning/end. words do. a word does.

Words have a beginning but the Word was with God in the beginning. This Word is truth, light.
The Word was the image of the God in the beginning and was in His Father. The 2 co existed and love had an object on which to focus for each of them.
I have heard it said that this love between them is the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Words have a beginning but the Word was with God in the beginning. This Word is truth, light.
The Word was the image of the God in the beginning and was in His Father. The 2 co existed and love had an object on which to focus for each of them.
I have heard it said that this love between them is the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth.
words are created. all spirit, no matter the form it takes, resides with god before being created. there is no exnihilo as you have just discovered. everything comes from god.


everything formed is a part of god. there is nothing that is made without, apart from god.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
words are created. all spirit, no matter the form it takes, resides with god before being created. there is no exnihilo as you have just discovered. everything comes from god.


everything formed is a part of god. there is nothing that is made without, apart from god.

All things were created by God and through the Word. I see nothing about things being created/made "of" or "from" God.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
All things were created by God and through the Word. I see nothing about things being created/made "of" or "from" God.


it's from the 3rd verse.. and you already agreed that the word that creates was with god. was is past tense meaning it preceded the beginning as something.


John 1:3


without was nothing made.


so everything is made within. god can't be omnipresent and not exist somewhere/anywhere.

so god is everything. god before the formed was unformed but all forms are god omnipresent.
 
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