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What is the most tolerant religion?

love

tri-polar optimist
What is the most most tolerant religion?
What is the most intolerant religion?
 
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Majikthise

Guest
Tolerant; Pagans and Buddhists

Intolerant; JWs (you thought I was gonna say Islam, hah!)
Example: My wife's cousin's parents and family were not allowed to so much as speak to him after he left the JWs.
Another example: My sister in law (whom I've always liked) stopped visiting and talking to me and my family after she discovered that I was an atheist. All was fine until my wife told her.
 

love

tri-polar optimist
I worked with an ex-JW who was excommunicated. He seemed like a really nice guy but I only knew him from work. I do know it caused him to divorce. I just wanted different peoples opinion.
 

evYugi

New Member
But it is still the person if they were raise to believe certain thing or behave in certain way? If people ideal, thought, and behavior are truely indenpendent of everything else, then we can say the individual is the one most at fault, but that is not the case. Society and the people close to each individual, as well as how one learn how to rationalize the world around them matter a great deal.
 

eudaimonia

Fellowship of Reason
Majikthise said:
Tolerant; Pagans and Buddhists

I have noticed that some self-identified pagans, and even a few self-identified Buddhists, can be very intolerant of anyone who supports capitalism or small government.


eudaimonia,

Mark
 

Fluffy

A fool
I have noticed that some self-identified pagans, and even a few self-identified Buddhists, can be very intolerant of anyone who supports capitalism or small government.
Anti-Christian feeling is also a small but growing problem.

Broadly speaking I don't consider any religion to be more or less tolerant than any other. Certain beliefs can result in intolerance but there is no religion that I am aware of that requires their interpretation in an intolerant way. One path vs many paths would be an example.
 

evYugi

New Member
It is true that people don't always do what society say, but people also have to learn how to do otherwise or if it is even possible. For people to do otherwise mean that they must see something there that seem out of place, however, if intolerant is a norm for an individual, then is it not difficult to do otherwise? Life is not black and white, and an individual alone cannot and does not learn to differentiate things on their own. That is why it is hard to blame people alone. It is true that each and every person should take responsibilities for their own action and its consequence, but at the same time, people must realize that each and every action have a rippling effect on all those around them. Good deeds beget good deeds, and bad deeds beget bad deeds.

As for the tc's question, I would like to add my answer as well. I am a buddhist, and I find it to be pretty tolerant, however, I have seen other that are buddhist but are not very tolerant. I find that tolerant has a very close correlation to education and the abilities for one to open their mind to new things. It is by opening up one's mind does one gain the abilities to dissert the many differences in the world.
 

*Paul*

Jesus loves you
I'm often inclined to think the Bahai are but it in my experience whenever I talk about Islam they will defend it but not defend Christianity when it's doctrines are questioned.

I'd have to say probably the Sikh religion.
 

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
*Paul* said:
I'm often inclined to think the Bahai are but it in my experience whenever I talk about Islam they will defend it but not defend Christianity when it's doctrines are questioned.

I'd have to say probably the Sikh religion.

When do we not defend Christianity when it's essential truths are challenged? Actually there is Christian doctrine that we do not believe to be correct.
Do we believe in the virgin birth? Yup, so does Islam. We believe in the primacy of Peter, too. Bring up a doctrine, and I'll tell you what Baha`i's believe in concerning that doctrine.

This is an English language message board and the English speaking world has a lot of misconceptions about Islam. They have a lot of misconceptions about Christianity too, from my point of view.

Regards,
Scott
 

*Paul*

Jesus loves you
Popeyesays said:
When do we not defend Christianity when it's essential truths are challenged? Actually there is Christian doctrine that we do not believe to be correct.
Do we believe in the virgin birth? Yup, so does Islam. We believe in the primacy of Peter, too. Bring up a doctrine, and I'll tell you what Baha`i's believe in concerning that doctrine.

This is an English language message board and the English speaking world has a lot of misconceptions about Islam. They have a lot of misconceptions about Christianity too, from my point of view.

Regards,
Scott

Thanks Scott,

In my experience when for example I have debated a muslim on this type of website the Bahai member will often defend Islam and the koran against my posts by this does not happen in the reverse, the bible is rarely defended even though you believe it is a part of Gods revelation. The deity of Jesus is not defended even though you believe Jesus is a manifestion of God.

It's those points in particular that I have in mind. I have read much of the Bahai writings and have asked two Bahai believers much about their faith so I do have a decent basic knowledge of your beliefs.

B.T.W I do not believe in the primacy of Peter, that is a doctrine peculiar to Roman Catholicism.
 

James the Persian

Dreptcredincios Crestin
Popeyesays said:
When do we not defend Christianity when it's essential truths are challenged? Actually there is Christian doctrine that we do not believe to be correct.
It looks to me like you disagree with more than one. Over all you appear, though I admit to a relative ignorance about your faith, to be closer to Islam than Christianity.
Do we believe in the virgin birth? Yup, so does Islam.
This I know but fail to understand. Without the Incarnation, the virgin birth seems like a meaningless trick to me.
We believe in the primacy of Peter, too.
And yet this is of importance only to Roman Catholics. It is not a core Christian doctrine by any means.
Bring up a doctrine, and I'll tell you what Baha`i's believe in concerning that doctrine.
I'm fairly sure I know what you believe about the most core doctrine - that of the Incarnation - and that it is very similar to Islam and far removed from Christianity, so I see why *Paul* get's the impression he does, though I certainly don't think that this has any reflection on how tolerant your faith is. After all, it's quite possible to be tolerant of those you disagree vehemently with (I endeavour to be so here all the time, and with God's help I even occasionally succeed).
This is an English language message board and the English speaking world has a lot of misconceptions about Islam. They have a lot of misconceptions about Christianity too, from my point of view.
Here I cannot disagree with you at all. I would note, however, that the Muslim misconceptions about Christianity here are at least equal in number to the reverse, so I do believe that the reason *Paul* gets the impression he does has less to do with the forum being English language than it does to do with the fact that your faith appears closer to Islam than to ours.

James
 

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
The Baha`i Faith rose out of Islam, like Christianity rose out of Judaism. The Prophet of the Baha`i Faith was persecuted by Islam in the same way that the Prophet of Christianity was persecuted by Judaism.

As to incarnation, it does not make sense to me.But it is not necessary for me to accept incarnation to defend the station of Christ or the validity of Christianity.

Please don't forget that without Christ Islam is hobbled since the Qur'an puts so much emphasis upon the truth of Jesus.

Christianity stops with Christ, it transfers no validity to Islam. Islam cannot be without the validity of Christ.

Now I will agree that dogma has severely challenged the station of Christ and the Gospels within Islam, but that is not representative of what Muhammad says of Christ and Christianity.

From my frame of reference Islam stops with Muhammad and does not transfer any validity to the Baha`i Faith. Dogma ignores what the Qur'an says about later Prophets to embrace exclusivity.

The Baha`i teachings not only embrace all the Prophets to proceed the Bab and Baha`u'llah but frankly says there will be other Manifestations of God in the future, and this cycle of revelation is eternal.

To us Judaism is the Religion of God, Zoroastrianism is the Religion of God, Islam is the Religion of God, Hinduism is the Religion of God, Buddhism is the Religion of God, Christianity is the Religion of God, the Baha`i Faith is the Religion of God.

And in due time, in the future another Prophet Founder will arise and reveal the Religion of God. One God, One Voice, One Unending Revelation.

Regards,
Scott
 

Hema

Sweet n Spicy
There are people from many different religions who are open-minded.

I'm not saying this with any pride whatsoever but Hinduism is very tolerant of all religions. The Rig Veda also says "Truth is one but the wise call it by different names". Therefore the Absolute Truth or God is one but he/she is called by different names eg. Om, Krishna, Buddha, Allah, Holy Spirit etc. I'm not saying that there are not closed minded Hindus. There are, but in general, Hindus see all religions as leading to the same God just as how many rivers take different paths but eventually lead to the same ocean. Even in my Temple, I would sometimes hear them singing different names. Just recently, they were singing a song "Jai Guru Datta", then I heard them singing about Allah and Christ.
 

BruceDLimber

Well-Known Member
Greetings!

*Paul* said:
I'm often inclined to think the Bahai are but it in my experience whenever I talk about Islam they will defend it but not defend Christianity when it's doctrines are questioned.

This, I fear, is grossly misleading.

What reject is the human additions and alterations i BOTH Christianity and Islam--and there are many in each!

And these changes aside, we Baha'is fully support both Christianity and Islam as legitimate, God-sent religions!

Nor do we favor one over the other, as our official statements make clear.

Peace,

Bruce
 

*Paul*

Jesus loves you
BruceDLimber said:
Greetings!
This, I fear, is grossly misleading.
What reject is the human additions and alterations i BOTH Christianity and Islam--and there are many in each!
And these changes aside, we Baha'is fully support both Christianity and Islam as legitimate, God-sent religions!
Nor do we favor one over the other, as our official statements make clear.
Bruce
I know what your official statements say but I am speaking soley on my personal experience and giving my personal opinion based on that. I have never once seen a Bahai jump in and defend Christian doctrine in a debate I have been involved in even when it covers the things Bahais claim to believe, such as the virgin birth, the bible being from God, Jesus' divinity.

Yet when I have been involved in debate with muslims I often find myself against both Bahai and Muslim, not too much on this site though thankfully, you guys tend to stay out of the way on this site.

This is not a reflection on Bahai official teaching but on my experience with it's followers.
 

Real Sorceror

Pirate Hunter
To a certian extent, it depends on the individual, as well as the society they live in, and finally the religion they practice.
I have found tolerance and intolerance in just about every religion I've ever encountered, including non-religions, such as atheism.
 
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