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Queen Elizabeth II and the Davidic Line

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
I've never heard anyone say that.

The closest I can think of is the idea Britain hasn't been invaded since 1066 (although that isn't actually correct either).

"Some quarters" of British society think the Queen is a shape-shifting lizard cocaine kingpin (or queenpin) though so anything is possible...

This question about why UK has never lost a war was posed and challenged on Quora:

Why has the UK never lost a war?
https://www.quora.com/Why-has-the-UK-never-lost-a-war
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
From your article:

I provided info about British Israelism from wikipedia.


So you agree that it's a white supremacist movement?

Yes, British Israelism is a White Supremacist Movement. In the same way Black Hebrew Israelites is a Black Supremacist Movement and Ethnic Jewish Movements are Jewish Supremacist Movements. What they all have in common is having Genetics are the determining factor of being Elohim's/God's Superior Chosen people.
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
Possibly, but to start the forgery back when the English crest was created seems unlikely.

Apparently, the English Crest was adopted in 1837. If Knights Templar/Freemason geniuses had in mind to produce Family Tree forgery, it wouldn't be difficult for them to do so.

The English Flag is a Knights Templar/Freemason Flag. Knights Templar/Freemason are Roman Catholic Soldiers. That means England has been under the control of the Universal Roman Catholic Church for centuries.

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Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
Lol. So since there was a caste system, it was perfectly justified for England to go and steal everything after murdering some number of people and call it "will of Elohim".

Greatest nonsense I have heard in my life.

Ephesians 4:6

6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.


If it was not the Will of Elohim/God it would not have happened.
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
So no evidence? I'll take it as wishful thinking then.
Where does it prophecise anything about that the British royal scroungers family in the bible?



And i provided several examples of wars lost by Britain.

It's belief through Faith rather than conclusive factual evidence.

Given that the British Royal House is of the Davidic Line, the Prophesies concerning Israel are British Prophesies.
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
That hrh is a Christian is not questioned, devoted is perhaps another matter.
I was Christian many years ago. Christians drove me away, yes om atheist which has nothing to do with my dislike of scroungers and paedophiles

Is it possible to be not devoted and a Christian? Does having one Paedophile in the Royal Family make them all Paedophiles? Are you saying that Pedophilia is widespread among the family?




Wrong, she has given 70 years of extremely well paid (including top notch accommodation) service while people children are starving.
I hope you enjoyed spending taxpayers money.




:facepalm:

You can be extremely well paid and still give tireless and selfless service to your country. Do you agree with this?
 

Truth in love

Well-Known Member
Apparently, the English Crest was adopted in 1837. If Knights Templar/Freemason geniuses had in mind to produce Family Tree forgery, it wouldn't be difficult for them to do so.

The English Flag is a Knights Templar/Freemason Flag. Knights Templar/Freemason are Roman Catholic Soldiers. That means England has been under the control of the Universal Roman Catholic Church for centuries.

320px-Flag_of_England.svg.png


278px-HPIM3597.JPG

The Lion and the Unicorn - Wikipedia

Royal coat of arms of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia


The elements go back much further. Its a pretty long time to start a fraud. Not beyond the realm of possibility, but it seems a bit of a stretch.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It's belief through Faith rather than conclusive factual evidence.

Given that the British Royal House is of the Davidic Line, the Prophesies concerning Israel are British Prophesies.

So no evidence at all then.

Kind of makes your second paragraph irrelevant.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Is it possible to be not devoted and a Christian? Does having one Paedophile in the Royal Family make them all Paedophiles? Are you saying that Pedophilia is widespread among the family?






You can be extremely well paid and still give tireless and selfless service to your country. Do you agree with this?


You read what i wrote, don't put words in my mouth

You can be extremely well scrounging and give very little to your country, do you agree with this?
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
In that case what claim does one individual have over another to the throne of England?

The Claim to the throne of England is Hereditary.



I would agree, but technically it isn't an earthly throne to the Egyptians. I don't consider royalty to be anything, but the royalty does as do many people. When the scripture says that heaven is the throne and the earth is the footstool, that footstool is not any human throne. To reduce it to a human throne is probably not a good idea.

Daniel 4:17

17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.

There is a Throne in Heaven and a Throne on Earth. Elohim/God rules in Heaven and on Earth, therefore, the Earthly Throne is Elohim's/God's Throne.




I must bring an argument to you that has some concepts which are probably alien to you.

I bring the Christian gospel scripture which has Jesus saying not to take oaths. He says let your yes simply be a yes. Matthew 5 I will admit that to me there remains some mystery surrounding this verse, so I'm not claiming perfect understanding of it. He does however say not to take oaths, while you are saying we must take them. I think oaths differ from a covenant.

Royalty makes a great show of oaths, as if God will punish them if they break their promises. So do presidents. It is a political act that helps assure their education deprived populations. From this comes a tradition in our courts to have people take oaths; but God is not required to back them. Oaths must always be taken in the presence of others, others who can hold the person to account. They differ from covenants, which are mutual. In a covenant all parties provide the same things, such as when drivers keep to our own side of the road. It simply keeps us from smashing into one another. There is wisdom, an emanation of God, within such a covenant.

Acts 18:18

18 And Paul after this tarried there yet a good while, and then took his leave of the brethren, and sailed thence into Syria, and with him Priscilla and Aquila; having shorn his head in Cenchrea: for he had a vow.


When a couple marry they take Vows/Oaths to be Faithful. In the same way entering into a Covenant with Elohim/God means taking an Oath to do the duties of the Covenant and receiving Elohim's/God's promises of said Covenant.

Paul, a Servant of Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ, took Oaths.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
It might help you understand why your "global GDP share" argument was very silly, but you can lead a horse to water...

Yeah. True. You cant teach a horse to understand certain things about what GDP is and how it works.

Again, just asserting you are right is not a rational argument.

Very true. You are wrong.

How does a private corporation with a handful of foreign troops take over a mighty power that is "doing great"? Might want to think about that...

Great. Explained already. I mean, spoon-fed.

Centuries of economic stagnation under a parasitic and bigoted foreign elite who grew increasingly oppressive as they tried to wring ever more money from the population, decreasing per capita GDP, imperial collapse leading to loss of central control, militarisation of society, decades of warfare and rebellion against the Mughals, invasion by the Persian who carried off the equivalent of over $100 billion in loot, grasping warlords fighting each other and oppressing the people = "Doing great" :D

Here's 18th C historian Ghulam Hussein Khan's take on "doing fine" after the Persian sack of Delhi:

It is from those times must be dated the sinking of rents, the decrease of husbandry, the distress of the people and their detestation of their Rulers. Nor was anything else thought of, but how to bring money to hand by any means whatever. This and this alone became the utmost ambition of all ranks.

It was in such an enfeebled state of the Empire, that there arose a new sort of men, who so far from setting up patterns of piety and virtue, squandered away the lives and properties of the poor with so much barefacedness, that other men, on beholding their conduct, became bolder and bolder, and practised the worst and ugliest action, without fear or remorse. From those men sprung an infinity of evil-doers, who plague the Indian world, and grind the faces of its wretched inhabitants …

Evils are now arisen to such a height, as render a remedy impossible. It is a consequence of such wretched administrations that every part of India has gone to ruin. So that, comparing the present times with the past, one is apt to think that this world is overwhelmed with darkness

Rhetoric ignoring the argument because of identification of a big mistake.

The British enter a country with a biggest GDP in the world, and exit it with a very tiny GDP percentage in the world. A thief.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Ephesians 4:6

6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.


If it was not the Will of Elohim/God it would not have happened.

Cute. The dcvidic bloodline and God's rite was probably the most evil thief to have ever lived.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
The English Flag is a Knights Templar/Freemason Flag. Knights Templar/Freemason are Roman Catholic Soldiers. That means England has been under the control of the Universal Roman Catholic Church for centuries

The English flag is st George's cross who lived hundreds of years before the templars and 1400 years before the freemasons. The freemasons are not a Catholic organisation, never were, though they will allow Catholics into their membership
 
Yeah. True. You cant teach a horse to understand certain things about what GDP is and how it works.

Yes, you've illustrated that you have no clue about what is shown by looking at GDP as a percentage of total world GDP shows.

Or that you don't understand what GDP as a percentage of global GDP says about how well governed a society is or what it says about the average person in the society.

Great. Explained already. I mean, spoon-fed.

Yes, I spoon fed you the reasons it wasn't "doing great".

You ignored them of course and just asserted you are right because you say so.

Rhetoric ignoring the argument because of identification of a big mistake.

My big mistake was assuming you could understand basic concepts and engage in rational discussion ;)

The British enter a country with a biggest GDP in the world, and exit it with a very tiny GDP percentage in the world. A thief.

You still don't get it...

You don't understand history

You don't understand GDP per capita

You don't understand GDP as a share of global GDP and what factors impact it.

You don't understand the industrial revolution or how it impacted traditional manufacturing.

You don't understand how changes in global trade would have impacted India's economy in any circumstances.

You don't understand that, according to your "logic", the fact Europe has seen a bigger decrease in its GDP share in less than half the time must be evidence of massively declining standards of living and one of the greatest crimes in history.

You do you though...
 
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firedragon

Veteran Member
Yes, you've illustrated that you have no clue about what is shown by looking at GDP as a percentage of total world GDP shows.

Or that you don't understand what GDP as a percentage of global GDP says about how well governed a society is or what it says about the average person in the society.

Strawman. Happens when people make bogus arguments but are too childish.

Yes, I spoon fed you the reasons it wasn't "doing great".

You ignored them of course and just asserted you are right because you say so.

Strawman. Happens when people make bogus arguments but are too childish.

You still don't get it...

You don't understand history

You don't understand GDP per capita

You don't understand GDP as a share of global GDP and what factors impact it.

You don't understand the industrial revolution or how it impacted traditional manufacturing.

You don't understand how changes in global trade would have impacted India's economy in any circumstances.

You don't understand that, according to your "logic", the fact Europe has seen a bigger decrease in its GDP share in less than half the time must be evidence of massively declining standards of living and one of the greatest crimes in history.

You do you though...

Happens when people make bogus arguments but are too childish.

Grow up soon.

England invaded a country that was contributing the most GDP and left it poor. A thief. You have tried to make it a "Muslim thing", and that's why you have never addressed Sri Lanka. ;) For the umpteenth time.

As cheap as could be.
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
I want the best for my country, that is being patriotic.
The Royal Family just flags up privilege and serfdom, this is 2022 the world has moved on

John 10:10

10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.


I'm Elohim/God Over and Above Country. Having Elohim/God Over and Above Country you do the best for your country.

Having Satan/Devil Over and Above Country you do the worst for your country.
 
You have tried to make it a "Muslim thing

Nope. Try reading properly next time.

England invaded a country that was contributing the most GDP and left it poor.

Again it was conquered by a private corporation overwhelmingly funded and fought for by Indians.

After the Raj though, it was left with a higher per capita GDP than the Mughals who you insist were "doing great" ;)

(I think they were both pretty bad)

Seeing as you are incapable of actual argument or logical thought, just vapid, unsupported assertions, further discussion is pointless.

I'll just repeat the findings of an prominent Indian scholar on the impacts of colonial rule on inequality and impoverishment:

In the most accepted view on inequality in colonial India, inequality increased between the propertied and the property-less because of capitalist exploitation and colonial institutional intervention, and between the colonists and the indigenes because of unequal political power. The paper rejects the thesis.. The extractive power of the state is overstated... Colonial economic policies were good for business, and had a weak effect on agriculture. To sum up, there was the emergence of a middle-class that gained from the open trading economy. There was no other pattern of much significance.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Nope. Try reading properly next time.



Again it was conquered by a private corporation overwhelmingly funded and fought for by Indians.

After the Raj though, it was left with a higher per capita GDP than the Mughals who you insist were "doing great" ;)

(I think they were both pretty bad)

Seeing as you are incapable of actual argument or logical thought, just vapid, unsupported assertions, further discussion is pointless.

I'll just repeat the findings of an prominent Indian scholar on the impacts of colonial rule on inequality and impoverishment:

In the most accepted view on inequality in colonial India, inequality increased between the propertied and the property-less because of capitalist exploitation and colonial institutional intervention, and between the colonists and the indigenes because of unequal political power. The paper rejects the thesis.. The extractive power of the state is overstated... Colonial economic policies were good for business, and had a weak effect on agriculture. To sum up, there was the emergence of a middle-class that gained from the open trading economy. There was no other pattern of much significance.

England stole from India, Sri Lanka, and many other countries around the world. But it just happens I know more about India because I have studied it.

India went from the biggest contributor in terms of GDP to the world, to one of the smallest with such a big big population. Thieving, England grew so fast it was amazing. Thief.

I will also "repeat" an Indian scholar. Well, I have done in every single post where you have tried your aunt sally's. ;) You didn't even understand your own "cut and paste". As you said, you made some "silly" arguments. England was a thief.
 
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