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Homosexuality and neuro-association
- Thread starter Ãanisty
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Normal people who happen to be sexually attracted to members of the same sex. But that isn't a poll option.
Options from that poll though, the second thing that would come to mind, would be the last three options.
Options from that poll though, the second thing that would come to mind, would be the last three options.
Mike182
Flaming Queer
i voted holding hands, but teh scenario i imagine two gay people holding hands is two people of the same sex holding hands walking down the street, or in any other "couple" situation.
Edit: sorry, i saw the "holding hand" option and voted it, without taking real note of it saying "two guys". the first thing that comes to my mind is holding hands, but it is not explicit to gay men - it comes to mind when i think of any couple, two men, two women, man and woman.
Edit: sorry, i saw the "holding hand" option and voted it, without taking real note of it saying "two guys". the first thing that comes to my mind is holding hands, but it is not explicit to gay men - it comes to mind when i think of any couple, two men, two women, man and woman.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
When I think of the word, homasexl, I think of two people salaciously ogling each others garden gnomes. That is just SO
so
gay. Infidel freaks, I tell ya. There really should be laws about this sort of thing ya know. Heavens, next thing ya know they will be demandin to have Science taught in Intelligent Design class
and that could lead to
dancing!!! GeeZuzz, give me strength!!! :sarcastic
Quoth The Raven
Half Arsed Muse
That being the case, my immediate association should be my sister...isn't though. Sorry, I have no immediate gut association with 'homosexuality'. If I ponder on it for maybe 30 seconds or so, my mind will actually wander in the direction of a bar I used to go to that was near where I worked.Three Faces...fun place,fun crowd, just happened to bear the classification of 'Gay Bar'. But I have to reach for that association, it doesn't immediately pop into my head. But I don't immediately associate the word 'gay' with homosexuality, either...maybe that's where we're all going wrong. We don't all immediately go 'homosexual=gay=show tunes and an abiding love for Liza Minelli=men in thongs dancing down the street singing,'I Love A Parade'.Radio Frequency X said:
And 'none of the above' is a valid answer.
darkpenguin
Charismatic Enigma
None of the above.
The first thing that comes to mind for me is 2 people of the same sex loving each other!
The first thing that comes to mind for me is 2 people of the same sex loving each other!
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
Radio Frequency X said:
Dude, I just answered the best I could. You have no right to say I'm lying. When someone says 'homosexual' I do not automatically think of a sex act, or any of the things mentioned in the poll.
Fluffy
A fool
Heya Radio Frequency X,
I am very concerned about your posts in this thread. You have discussed your argument but it does not appear to justify your previous conclusion that Green Gaia is dishonest. She may have genuinly forgotten the associations that her brain must make. Her brain might work in a different way to yours. Your generalisation might be false. Perfectly plausible possibilities and no justification for the unsupported characterisation of a fellow human being.
You could have just stated your argument. What normally happens when people make personal assumptions about another's motives is that person gets hurt. Therefore, these sorts of characterisations are not only unnecessary, they are counter productive and potentially hurtful.
I am very concerned about your posts in this thread. You have discussed your argument but it does not appear to justify your previous conclusion that Green Gaia is dishonest. She may have genuinly forgotten the associations that her brain must make. Her brain might work in a different way to yours. Your generalisation might be false. Perfectly plausible possibilities and no justification for the unsupported characterisation of a fellow human being.
You could have just stated your argument. What normally happens when people make personal assumptions about another's motives is that person gets hurt. Therefore, these sorts of characterisations are not only unnecessary, they are counter productive and potentially hurtful.
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
I'm going to have to say none of them.
Two normal people in love... the fact that they are of the same gender is inconsiquential.
wa:do
Two normal people in love... the fact that they are of the same gender is inconsiquential.
wa:do
Radio Frequency X
World Leader Pretend
Quoth The Raven said:
Everything is associated with something. You cannot have a thought without it pertaining to some idea which gives the thought meaning in the first place. Homosexuality is not an idea in a vacuum. It relates to homosexuals, homosexual acts, political oppression/repression, civil rights efforts, and so forth. If I say, "baseball", the word will be associated with any number of ideas and concepts related to baseball, be it a ball, a player, the game, a stadium, a fat man with a hotdog, etc.
If your immediate association is your sister, then that is valid and None of the Above would apply. But for someone to remark that they only think about people, just people, with no context or association, is simply impossible.
Mercy Not Sacrifice
Well-Known Member
Ðanisty said:
Just the word "gay," which is basically the same thing. Since there wasn't really anything over-encompassing here, I settled for the second option.
BTW, if this thread is designed to do what I think it is, this should be a pretty good discussion.
Quoth The Raven
Half Arsed Muse
I said my immediate association ISN'T my sister...she's about 40,000 other things before she's gay, as has been every other homosexual person I've ever known.Radio Frequency X said:
Ãanisty
Well-Known Member
There is nothing wrong with your answer not being on the poll. It wasn't designed to include an option for everyone. I just wanted to see the outcome for those who do have an immediate association for the things I listed. It's not that your opinion doesn't matter. It just doesn't address any of the questions I have.
The fact that there is only one vote for lesbians kind of confirms what I thought...that most people don't really think of lesbians first when confronted with the word homosexual. Most people tend to think of gay men. I noticed a lot of people voted for effeminate men/crossdressers. I have to thank Victor for suggesting that option for the poll. Honestly, I chose men kissing. I'm sure I associate homosexuality with men kissing because it's something I like to see.
I'm curious how many people first associated the word homosexuality with something they are comfortable with (like the image of men kissing for me) and how many people associated homosexuality with a scenario they are uncomfortable with.
So far:
We've got 5 votes for effeminate/men crossdressers. I wonder how many of the people who voted for that are uncomfortable with that image? It's nice to see so many people voting holding hands and kissing. I'm willing to bet that most of the people who voted that way are probably pretty comfortable with homosexuals...just a guess.
We've got a total of 6 people who first thought of sexual acts...things you wouldn't see in public.
The fact that there is only one vote for lesbians kind of confirms what I thought...that most people don't really think of lesbians first when confronted with the word homosexual. Most people tend to think of gay men. I noticed a lot of people voted for effeminate men/crossdressers. I have to thank Victor for suggesting that option for the poll. Honestly, I chose men kissing. I'm sure I associate homosexuality with men kissing because it's something I like to see.
I'm curious how many people first associated the word homosexuality with something they are comfortable with (like the image of men kissing for me) and how many people associated homosexuality with a scenario they are uncomfortable with.
So far:
We've got 5 votes for effeminate/men crossdressers. I wonder how many of the people who voted for that are uncomfortable with that image? It's nice to see so many people voting holding hands and kissing. I'm willing to bet that most of the people who voted that way are probably pretty comfortable with homosexuals...just a guess.
We've got a total of 6 people who first thought of sexual acts...things you wouldn't see in public.
MaddLlama
Obstructor of justice
Ðanisty said:
I picked that option, but I'm not uncomfortable seeing it at all, and I to me it isn't a negative image. I think it's just my gut reaction because I went to a theater school for "behind the scenes" theater things. A made friends with a lot of the costume designers, most of which happened to be gay, and either effeminate, or drag queens.
With women, for me, it's a little bit different. From what I have experienced, gay men are more often than not feminine in their dress and mannerisms, while I personally see more lesbians that look like "normal" women (as in, they don't dress or act like men).