has G-D performed any miracles lately?

jmaster78 · Feb 22, 2007

Hi just a quick question, considering how many miracles G-D/Jesus performed back in the day to prove their existance, in this topsy turby day in age where faith in G-D is being battered from all sides and loosing numbers rapidly, you'd think it was time to pull another trick out of the bag? Whats the delay?

Bishka · Feb 22, 2007

jmaster78 said:
Hi just a quick question, considering how many miracles G-D/Jesus performed back in the day to prove their existance, in this topsy turby day in age where faith in G-D is being battered from all sides and loosing numbers rapidly, you'd think it was time to pull another trick out of the bag? Whats the delay?

I think God does it everday. I see it in the sunset, in a baby, in my husband, in the feeling of comfort that I receive. Those are miracles to me.

Faith precedes the miracles. Miracles do not cause faith.

Ody · Feb 22, 2007

jmaster78 said:
Hi just a quick question, considering how many miracles G-D/Jesus performed back in the day to prove their existance, in this topsy turby day in age where faith in G-D is being battered from all sides and loosing numbers rapidly, you'd think it was time to pull another trick out of the bag? Whats the delay?

You just have to open your eyes and see them

Reverend Rick · Feb 22, 2007

I thought you were talking about the Golden Dawn

jmaster78 · Feb 22, 2007

How about this?

we've all heard the phrase 'the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.' what if G-D did the same? maybe he deliberately conceals himself from us to see how we, civilisation, will progress without him constantly having to shepherd us along the righteous path, like it's easy to be a model employee with the boss looking over your shoulder, but what if the boss tells you he's away on holiday but is actually hiding in the cupboard?

Bishka · Feb 22, 2007

jmaster78 said:
How about this?

we've all heard the phrase 'the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.' what if G-D did the same? maybe he deliberately conceals himself from us to see how we, civilisation, will progress without him constantly having to shepherd us along the righteous path, like it's easy to be a model employee with the boss looking over your shoulder, but what if the boss tells you he's away on holiday but is actually hiding in the cupboard?

Why would God hide? Or convince us He doesn't exist, that doesn't even make any sense? Why would your boss hide in the cupboard....that's just weird!

Bubber · Feb 22, 2007

beckysoup61 said:
I think God does it everday. I see it in the sunset, in a baby, in my husband, in the feeling of comfort that I receive. Those are miracles to me.

Faith precedes the miracles. Miracles do not cause faith.

Not exactly parting the red sea or flooding the planet though is it? The ten plagues of Egypt including the killing of Egyptian children.... Those were the days eh?:cloud9:

Personally, I'm glad he's been quiet. He's got a short fuse on the best of days.

Tigress · Feb 22, 2007

jmaster78 said:
Hi just a quick question, considering how many miracles G-D/Jesus performed back in the day to prove their existance, in this topsy turby day in age where faith in G-D is being battered from all sides and loosing numbers rapidly, you'd think it was time to pull another trick out of the bag? Whats the delay?

I got out of bed this morning...that was a miracle...

Heck, I'm even dressed.

jmaster78 · Feb 22, 2007

beckysoup61 said:
Why would God hide? Or convince us He doesn't exist, that doesn't even make any sense? Why would your boss hide in the cupboard....that's just weird!

it worked for the devil! if he's not hiding then why not make himself more visible for those that have trouble seeing beyond the facts? i know we are surrounded by miracles everyday, but why did G-D decide to tone down his theatrics from the spectacles mentionedin the bible?

James the Persian · Feb 23, 2007

jmaster78 said:
it worked for the devil! if he's not hiding then why not make himself more visible for those that have trouble seeing beyond the facts? i know we are surrounded by miracles everyday, but why did G-D decide to tone down his theatrics from the spectacles mentionedin the bible?

Miracles (and I mean actual miracles, not things like sunsets, though I appreciate the sentiment that was being expressed) happen pretty frequently in my faith. One happens every single year. We don't make a huge deal out of them because we consider such things as personal signs rather than matters of doctrine, but believe me there are many that still occur including healings, incorrupt bodies, myrrh streaming icons, people speaking in or understanding languages never learnt etc., etc. God hasn't toned things down. Just because you don't know of them doesn't mean they don't happen.

James

Comprehend · Feb 23, 2007

JamesThePersian said:
Miracles (and I mean actual miracles, not things like sunsets, though I appreciate the sentiment that was being expressed) happen pretty frequently in my faith. One happens every single year. We don't make a huge deal out of them because we consider such things as personal signs rather than matters of doctrine, but believe me there are many that still occur including healings, incorrupt bodies, myrrh streaming icons, people speaking in or understanding languages never learnt etc., etc. God hasn't toned things down. Just because you don't know of them doesn't mean they don't happen.

James

James' post is a great example of the principle of faith behind miracles. There must be faith first or God will not give us miracles. James' Church obviously has faith. Mine does too. Where faithful people are, you will find miracles. Where there is no faith, there will be no miracles.

Matt 9:29
29 Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you.

Matt 15:28
28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great [is] thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

Matt 17:19-20
19 Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out?
20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

Matt 13:58
58 And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.

wizanda · Feb 23, 2007

There are constant miracles for me and many of the light, God is the lord of the living and is always near, never far….it is just when we close the door to God and forget to reopen it, we don’t see how many little miracles happen all day around us.

jmaster78 · Feb 23, 2007

JamesThePersian said:
Miracles (and I mean actual miracles, not things like sunsets, though I appreciate the sentiment that was being expressed) happen pretty frequently in my faith. One happens every single year. We don't make a huge deal out of them because we consider such things as personal signs rather than matters of doctrine, but believe me there are many that still occur including healings, incorrupt bodies, myrrh streaming icons, people speaking in or understanding languages never learnt etc., etc. God hasn't toned things down. Just because you don't know of them doesn't mean they don't happen.

James

sorry but i'm not convinced. ok so G-D can make a person speak in a foreign language. There is a reason that person never learnt to speak this new language of their own accord, they had no interest in it! I reacon people would have been more impressed if G-D had reigned down plagues on the nazi's when they were gassing his chosen people by the millions. or as G-D has control over water, like parting it, then why did he not stop the boxing day tsunami? I'm quite sure if you could ask those who lost their lives at the hands of the nazi's or the tsunami, which type of mirracle they prefere, sunsets would be well down the list!

thedude · Feb 23, 2007

jmaster78 said:
Hi just a quick question, considering how many miracles G-D/Jesus performed back in the day to prove their existance, in this topsy turby day in age where faith in G-D is being battered from all sides and loosing numbers rapidly, you'd think it was time to pull another trick out of the bag? Whats the delay?

I think a miracle is in the eyes of the beholder. It's just how you interpret a situation. I once heard a story(fictional of course) about a guy who was working on his roof when he began to slip and fall off. As he came near the edge of the roof he cried, "God save me!" Just then his shirt got caught on a nail that was sticking out and saved him from his fall. He then said, "Nevermind God. I saved myself!"

Case and point.

spacemonkey · Feb 23, 2007

He created the internet!

Hold on I thought you said G-re. Sorry

NoahideHiker · Feb 23, 2007

jmaster78 said:
Hi just a quick question, considering how many miracles G-D/Jesus performed back in the day to prove their existance, in this topsy turby day in age where faith in G-D is being battered from all sides and loosing numbers rapidly, you'd think it was time to pull another trick out of the bag? Whats the delay?

I would say the fact a bunch of rag tag refugees from the holocaust winning independence in 1848 and forming the modern Israel is a miracle. Or when Israel's neighbors gathered together to wipe them out in 1967 and Israel defeated them in but 6 days is a miracle. Or when Iraq fired hundreds of SCUD missiles into Israel during the Gulf War and not a single person was hurt is a miracle.

spacemonkey · Feb 23, 2007

NoahideHiker said:
I would say the fact a bunch of rag tag refugees from the holocaust winning independence in 1848 and forming the modern Israel is a miracle. Or when Israel's neighbors gathered together to wipe them out in 1967 and Israel defeated them in but 6 days is a miracle. Or when Iraq fired hundreds of SCUD missiles into Israel during the Gulf War and not a single person was hurt is a miracle.

I hope you meant 1948 , because 1848 was a little before the Holocaust. As for the SCUDs, anyone that has been in the military can tell you that it would have been more of a miracle for the SCUDs to actually hit their targets (they all probably fell short in Jordan or Syria) then to miss.

NoahideHiker · Feb 23, 2007

spacemonkey said:
I hope you meant 1948 , because 1848 was a little before the Holocaust. As for the SCUDs, anyone that has been in the military can tell you that it would have been more of a miracle for the SCUDs to actually hit their targets (they all probably fell short in Jordan or Syria) then to miss.

Oops! Yeah, 1948. There were scuds that did hit in some cities in Israel during the war.

James the Persian · Feb 26, 2007

jmaster78 said:
I'm quite sure if you could ask those who lost their lives at the hands of the nazi's

You mean like my relatives (variously enslaved and exterminated by Nazis)? Don't assume that all of us have cosy family backgrounds. You don't believe that God provides miracles so you don't see them and you appear to want to believe in a meddling God who will save us from ourselves. Unfortunately he gave us this thing called free will. Oh, and please learn to use apostrophes properly.

James

Booko · Feb 26, 2007

NoahideHiker said:
Or when Iraq fired hundreds of SCUD missiles into Israel during the Gulf War and not a single person was hurt is a miracle.

You should know that "SCUD" stands for "Sure Could Use Directions."

(Or was that "Scacely Controlled Urban Destroyer?")

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